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  • BYU loses an OT game to Utah by 1. Erickson got a late call while Saunders got mobbed with no call. But we have to freaking hit our FTs. It's hard to know if this is a coaching thing or a players' thing. I guess you could consider us unlucky (although I don't like the word) having lost so many close games. We just need to get over that hump. What's disappointing to me though, is that the players that KY brought in have really under achieved IMO. Demin, Catchings, Keita, Mag (only somewhat as I never really expected him to do too much). Our offense has too much standing around at times. We don't have a super NBA talent where someone can take over and beat their man to the hoop. We NEED an offense to move players around and to have some structure as to what we are doing. I'm going to again reference Saunders' preseason interview where he said (paraphrasing): "We just try something and if it works we do it again." I've never in my life of following various sports, heard of that approach before. I am giving KY this year, and next year. He obviously can recruit. But the question is definitely debatable as to whether he can coach. If he can't, then he'd better get some assistants who can. And, he just might need to adapt to the college game. This ain't the NBA.

    Foussey Traore gets the Player of the Game, for the third time. Honestly, I don't think he's the type of player that KY recruits, but he's the type of player that I love having on my team. A bit old school. He missed a late shot, but it's hard to fault him when he had a TS% of 61.5%. I love my Dancing Bear! He had the highest, PER, GSc, and TS%.

    Dawson Baker gets the Struggled to Perform award, for the 4th time. Another subpar shooting night, and he doesn't bring much to the table besides scoring, so he's gotta step up in that department. Hall had the worst GSc and TS%. His 4 Ast and 0 TOs saved him from having the worst PER, but he is also really struggling this season.

    The season average PER has been updated with the two games from this week. The top 3 remain the same although Foos moved ahead of Saunders.

    BYU is now 11-6 (2-4) and #45 in Kenpom and #46 in NET. Utah is now #73 in Kenpom and #70 in NET. Currently this is a Q1 loss. Next up is Colorado, who is 9-8 (0-6) and #92 in Kenpom and #92 in NET. As another away game, this is a middle of the road Q2 game.

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    "Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react." - Charles Swindoll

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    • If this team could hit FT at any respectable percentage they’d only have 2 losses.

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      • Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post
        If this team could hit FT at any respectable percentage they’d only have 2 losses.
        Pretty much.
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        • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
          I'm giving Kevin Young grace. (Not Mark Grace). This team still needs to gel. One thing they have to figure out is how to seize the opportunities given and win the game. Sucking this bad at free throws is ridiculous. I'd consider not starting any player that can't hit at 70% from the line. Catchings and Demin need to figure it out free throws and aspire to be like Brody Kozlowski.
          I can't understand the FT issue. That is something you can practice and practice and practice. I think Catchings is a fairly good FTer. Demin and Knell should be much, much better.

          One FT, that's all we needed. Ugh.

          Oh, and uofutah 34 is a whiny bitch.


          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • Good thing Demin is saying he might not be one and done. He is nowhere near good enough to be one and done. It sounds like he might be getting good advice. He gets bullied physically way to easily and this is college basketball not the NBA. Catchings is an even longer way from being NBA ready. I am not saying some NBA team won't draft him, but it will be a mistake for him and for them.
            Dyslexics are teople poo...

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            • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

              I can't understand the FT issue. That is something you can practice and practice and practice. I think Catchings is a fairly good FTer. Demin and Knell should be much, much better.

              One FT, that's all we needed. Ugh.

              Oh, and uofutah 34 is a whiny bitch.

              Knell is 77%. He's not terrible at the line but the one he missed wss huge.

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              • Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                Good thing Demin is saying he might not be one and done. He is nowhere near good enough to be one and done. It sounds like he might be getting good advice. He gets bullied physically way to easily and this is college basketball not the NBA. Catchings is an even longer way from being NBA ready. I am not saying some NBA team won't draft him, but it will be a mistake for him and for them.
                Demin looked unbeatable against lesser competition. How good was the competition when playing for the jr Real Madrid? Maybe not that much better than q3 and q4 ncaa teams he has played well against here. It's easy to see what scouts like about him but I'm sure his draft stock isn't what it wss before the season started after playing good teams.

                But the NBA still also has plenty of examples of high draft picks used for players perceived to have enormous potential and very little track record...ie, Dante Exum and a half dozen others like him in every draft.

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                • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                  Demin looked unbeatable against lesser competition. How good was the competition when playing for the jr Real Madrid? Maybe not that much better than q3 and q4 ncaa teams he has played well against here. It's easy to see what scouts like about him but I'm sure his draft stock isn't what it wss before the season started after playing good teams.

                  But the NBA still also has plenty of examples of high draft picks used for players perceived to have enormous potential and very little track record...ie, Dante Exum and a half dozen others like him in every draft.
                  Yeah potential is drafted all the time and that may be the case again, but it often doesn't work out for the team or the player. Hopefully he is getting good advice. With NIL, it now doesn't have to be all about the money.
                  Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                  • 4 minutes in. Not feeling great about this game.
                    Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                    "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                    • Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
                      Knell sucks
                      Still.

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                      • This team is not good right now. A long way from it actually.
                        Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                        • Colorado 0-6 in the big 12…
                          Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                          • Knell…
                            Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                            • This teams offense is basically dribble drive into nothing kick it out into nothing shoot a contested shot
                              Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                              • Dyslexics are teople poo...

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