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  • LiveCoug
    LA Ute loves me
    • Nov 2008
    • 18486

    #31
    Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
    Criddle says another scholarship player is hitting the portal today. This is starting to look like a bloodbath.
    It's Gavin Baxter. Wasn't planning on him anyway

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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69651

      #32
      Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post

      It's Gavin Baxter. Wasn't planning on him anyway
      Now we need Seneca Knight to enter the portal. He was a bust. Let's just rebuild this thing.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • USUC
        Chronic Poseur
        • Apr 2010
        • 8783

        #33
        I don't really follow college basketball at all but after a couple of comments about the "meltdown" of BYU's bb program from Co workers and seeing a couple of KSL articles about it, how serious is the situation in Provo?

        Scale from 1 to 10 with 1 being a nothing burger

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        • Green Monstah
          Royal Rooter
          • Aug 2010
          • 13947

          #34
          Originally posted by USUC View Post
          I don't really follow college basketball at all but after a couple of comments about the "meltdown" of BYU's bb program from Co workers and seeing a couple of KSL articles about it, how serious is the situation in Provo?

          Scale from 1 to 10 with 1 being a nothing burger
          I'm not sure. There are a lot of teams that deal with this frequently. The key difference is that they replace their NBA draft picks with more NBA draft picks.
          Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

          "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69651

            #35
            Originally posted by USUC View Post
            I don't really follow college basketball at all but after a couple of comments about the "meltdown" of BYU's bb program from Co workers and seeing a couple of KSL articles about it, how serious is the situation in Provo?

            Scale from 1 to 10 with 1 being a nothing burger
            Ignore the meltdown talk. Yeesh.



            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • myboynoah
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 21719

              #36
              I don't know what to think about this. I tend to prefer continuity, but I can see that things are changing.

              Baxter - for three years we have planned for him to play a part, only to have early season-ending injuries each season. How can you continue to plan for that? I hope wherever he goes he stays healthy.

              Lohner - he brought so much awesome drama with his transfer to BYU; it was awesome. His shooting is atrocious and his abilities don't seem to be matching his seeming physical potential. Maybe this was just a sophomore slump. Wished he had stuck around, but watching those 3-point clankers and non-clankers got tiresome.

              George - wth? I like him, although he was a turnover machine whenever he put the ball on the floor.

              I'm just curious why this is happening. It seems like a big decision to leave a program. Is the Pope show getting old for the players?
              Last edited by myboynoah; 04-19-2022, 07:17 PM.
              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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              • jadesroom
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2021
                • 138

                #37
                Right now I'm a 2 or 3 on the 1-10 scale. Lohner is the only one that was a major impact player. George had his moments, but Baxter was injury plagued. Erickson and Hansen rarely played so they may or may not big losses. Who is the sixth player that is transferring?

                At this point I'm more interested in seing who the replacements are and whether they will be an upgrade; I suspect that for the most part they will be. Burgess is a loss because of his recruiting ability. I'm not sure if Peery, Daniels, or another possibility outside of Madsen has the name recognition and connection with LDS high school athletes the way Burgess seemed to have.

                On another point, a co-worker said today that Haarms was way over-rated and that it was a mistake to get rid of Lee. In other words, Haarms should not have been signed, and Lee should have been developed more. Your thoughts?
                Last edited by jadesroom; 04-19-2022, 05:48 PM.

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                • myboynoah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 21719

                  #38
                  I always like Colby Lee and was sad that the left. But what has he done lately?
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69651

                    #39
                    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                    I always like Colby Lee and was sad that the left. But what has he done lately?
                    Signed with Idaho state today!
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • myboynoah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 21719

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                      Signed with Idaho state today!
                      Yeah, exactly. Not a great talent, but we could have used him last year, which goes back to the fragility of Baxter.
                      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                      • BigPiney
                        Huge Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12362

                        #41
                        I am sad about Lohner. I liked him, though I do think that Pope broke him.

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                        • Jeff Lebowski
                          Corporate lackey for Jesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69651

                          #42
                          Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
                          I am sad about Lohner. I liked him, though I do think that Pope broke him.
                          How did Pope break him?
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • tooblue
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 5124

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                            How did Pope break him?
                            1. Pope is a confidence killer (benched him at one point, hurting the team and his confidence)
                            2. Played him out of position out of necessity, but did not provide him the coaching to develop an essential mid-range game he would need to be successful
                            3. Stubbornly stuck with offensive sets that did not play to the strengths of his personnel
                            4. Failed to adjust defensively (both coach K and the cheater Bill Self went to a zone from time to time during the tournament)

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                            • SeattleUte
                              Faith crisis consultant
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 20837

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                              Ignore the meltdown talk. Yeesh.
                              It's not possible to build a great program and have to change out the team every season. Sheesh. Just look at the programs that succeed and the ones that don't. Key player transfers are program killers. Yes, the rules are different now. But great coaches will learn to manage the system and keep their returning nucleui intact.


                              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                              --Jonathan Swift

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69651

                                #45
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                It's not possible to build a great program and have to change out the team every season. Sheesh. Just look at the programs that succeed and the ones that don't. Key player transfers are program killers. Yes, the rules are different now. But great coaches will learn to manage the system and keep their returning nucleui intact.
                                There is something like 1600 D1 players in the transfer portal. This is impacting almost every program to a large degree.

                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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