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  • Goatnapper'96
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 10924
    #1

    2022-2023 Basketball Season

    Roster is in flux still. Hunter Ericson and Nate Hansen are both in portal. Perhaps there will be more. Pretty much every portal entry from other schools seems to have BYU interested. No clue yet other than the JC PG, Sean East, of who BYU is really recruiting and who is really interested in BYU.

    Next seasons scholarship players at present:

    Dallin Hall-FR
    Tanner Toolsen-FR
    Richie Saunders-FR
    Trey Stewart - SO
    Atiki - SO
    Fouss Traore-SO
    Caleb Lohner JR(C)
    Trevin Knell- SR (C)
    Spencer Johnson - SR (C)
    Gideon George - SR
    Seneca Knight - SR

    Without anyone else moving on there is room for 2 more additions. I still look at those top 3 and wonder about the scholarship management in having 3 of your perimeter players all true freshman RMs in the same year. My guess is either Knight or Gideon move on and BYU goes after 2 bigs in portal and a PG.
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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69641
      #2
      Didn't Seneca Knight already enter the portal? I hear he scrubbed everything byu-related from his social media.

      He has been a bust, imo.
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        • Non Sequitur
          Where did I put my bodkin
          • Nov 2008
          • 5773
          #3
          That's a scary bad roster.
          "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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            • Goatnapper'96
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 10924
              #4
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Didn't Seneca Knight already enter the portal? I hear he scrubbed everything byu-related from his social media.

              He has been a bust, imo.
              I don't believe he has officially yet. I saw his twitter and he had a couple of pictures of himself playing in games for BYU. I don't know what he scrubbed or not but I do think he is the most likely to move on.

              I think bust is a strong term. But he hasn't played like the all MWC player he was at SJSU 2 years prior. I like grad transfers better than unhappy transfers but BYU is probably closer to beggar than chooser.
              Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
              -General George S. Patton

              I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
              -DOCTOR Wuap

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                • Jeff Lebowski
                  Corporate lackey for Jesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 69641
                  #5
                  I tweaked the title.
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Goatnapper'96
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10924
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                      That's a scary bad roster.
                      It won't be bad but without some big time help it won't be good either. Bad was BYU in 2004-2005.
                      Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                      -General George S. Patton

                      I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                      -DOCTOR Wuap

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                        • Non Sequitur
                          Where did I put my bodkin
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5773
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

                          It won't be bad but without some big time help it won't be good either. Bad was BYU in 2004-2005.
                          Who are our bigs? I see Fous and Atiki, but Fous is really a 4 and Atiki is still raw. If either of them go down, where are we at? It seems like most of our guys play the same position.
                          "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                            • Goatnapper'96
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 10924
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post

                              Who are our bigs? I see Fous and Atiki, but Fous is really a 4 and Atiki is still raw. If either of them go down, where are we at? It seems like most of our guys play the same position.
                              Right now they are Fouss, Atiki and Lohner. My guess is they add 2 more and perhaps they find somebody significantly better, but my guess is that 50 of the 80 mpg available to the 2 post positions go to Fous and Lohner.

                              I think both will be better next year. Admittedly, I think Lohner can be a much more consistent and better player than you think he can. But I think BYU's ceiling next year isn't much higher than where they finished this year. I am the least optimistic I have been for any Pope team, but I still expect them to be in some form of contention for an NCAA bid late in the year.
                              Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                              -General George S. Patton

                              I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                              -DOCTOR Wuap

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                                • smokymountainrain
                                  Impressive Member
                                  • Nov 2008
                                  • 22593
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post

                                  Who are our bigs? I see Fous and Atiki, but Fous is really a 4 and Atiki is still raw. If either of them go down, where are we at? It seems like most of our guys play the same position.
                                  bigs aren't the problem with that roster. guards/wings who can create for themselves and teammates is the glaring problem with that group. granted, somebody like Hall or Saunders could surprise in that role as a frosh - but they are indeed freshmen so that is highly unlikely. it's a team that probably wins 15-20 games by winning a lot of ugly games unless pope adds a scorer via the portal.
                                  Last edited by smokymountainrain; 04-06-2022, 01:20 PM.
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                                    • BigFatMeanie
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Nov 2008
                                      • 7110
                                      #10
                                      Sorry, Napper, but Lohner isn't really a big. In my opinion there isn't a legitimate center on that roster and, unlike SMR, I think the lack of real bigs are a problem. Especially if we take Pope's assertion this season, that the offense runs through the center, at face value.

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                                        • smokymountainrain
                                          Impressive Member
                                          • Nov 2008
                                          • 22593
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                                          Sorry, Napper, but Lohner isn't really a big. In my opinion there isn't a legitimate center on that roster and, unlike SMR, I think the lack of real bigs are a problem. Especially if we take Pope's assertion this season, that the offense runs through the center, at face value.
                                          i shouldn't have said it that way. bigs are an issue. i see the lack of anybody who can create as a bigger issue. as it turns out this team is in trouble if they don't get some impact transfers.
                                          I'm like LeBron James.
                                          -mpfunk

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                                            • BigFatMeanie
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Nov 2008
                                              • 7110
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post

                                              i shouldn't have said it that way. bigs are an issue. i see the lack of anybody who can create as a bigger issue. as it turns out this team is in trouble if they don't get some impact transfers.
                                              On the team as presently constituted being in trouble we are in 100% agreement.

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                                                • tooblue
                                                  Senior Member
                                                  • Nov 2008
                                                  • 5124
                                                  #13
                                                  https://twitter.com/JacobCHatch/stat...M0JgX6QZBVo-2Q

                                                  Can't get the embedded tweet to work, but Lohner and George in the portal
                                                  Last edited by tooblue; 04-18-2022, 09:07 AM.

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                                                    • LiveCoug
                                                      LA Ute loves me
                                                      • Nov 2008
                                                      • 18486
                                                      #14
                                                      Lohner back to Utah with Burgess, certainly. This blows. Burgess will probably be able to get Chandler to reconsider his BYU commitment now too.

                                                      That move was a huge deal.

                                                      It'll be interesting to see if Pope can handle this

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                                                        • originalsocal
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • Dec 2009
                                                          • 1632
                                                          #15
                                                          Burgess, the recruiting gift that just keeps on giving. Somewhere Roger Reid is smiling.

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