At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

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  • Moliere
    One man.....one pie
    • Oct 2009
    • 27819

    #1381
    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
    Like I've been saying, this isn't rocket science. We need data to fight this thing. We should just test the whole country.

    Why Germany’s coronavirus death rate is so much lower than other countries’ rates
    Houston has two drive-thru test sites open. They tested 500 people yesterday and anticipated testing 500 more today. However, if they don't get in more tests after today they will have to close the testing centers because they are out of tests. Imagine that, the fourth largest city in the US is on the verge of not being able to test for this virus and we are months past when other countries were testing tens of thousands each day. The government's (I blame Trump) biggest failure in all of this is not having the testing capability ready when needed. Now we are slow to build up the capacity in the hospitals and get enough masks/shields/gowns/etc. (but fortunately seem ahead of China and Italy on that front). If we had tested early and often we wouldn't have the dire need for the other measures coming our way. Utter failure by the federal government, plain and simple. What a nightmare.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • SeattleUte
      Faith crisis consultant
      • Nov 2008
      • 20837

      #1382
      More Stanford dissent.

      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

      --Jonathan Swift

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      • tooblue
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 5108

        #1383
        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
        https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

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        • SeattleUte
          Faith crisis consultant
          • Nov 2008
          • 20837

          #1384
          Originally posted by tooblue View Post
          This doesn't address the multiple Stanford doctors who have questioned the current approach. This article I posted says the published death rate may be overstated by orders of magnitude because there are so many out there who are infected and without symptoms. I'm sure John's Hopkins agrees the death rates are overstated. The question is, by how much?
          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

          --Jonathan Swift

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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69521

            #1385
            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
            This doesn't address the multiple Stanford doctors who have questioned the current approach. This article I posted says the published death rate may be overstated by orders of magnitude because there are so many out there who are infected and without symptoms. I'm sure John's Hopkins agrees the death rates are overstated. The question is, by how much?
            Death rates by country. With confidence intervals.

            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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            • Green Monstah
              Royal Rooter
              • Aug 2010
              • 13923

              #1386
              I’m 70% sure I had CV19 in early March.
              Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

              "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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              • myboynoah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 21719

                #1387
                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                At least they admit that extrapolating from testing of "a substantial number of NBA players and teams" and getting an estimate of 990,000 infections in the U.S. is "very week" and that "the NBA is not a representative population."

                They are 100% correct with this:

                Given the enormous consequences of decisions around Covid-19 response, getting clear data to guide decisions now is critical. We don’t know the true infection rate in the U.S.
                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                • SeattleUte
                  Faith crisis consultant
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 20837

                  #1388
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Death rates by country. With confidence intervals.

                  https://www.cebm.net/global-covid-19...atality-rates/
                  Death rates among total infected?
                  When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                  --Jonathan Swift

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                  • Northwestcoug
                    Cocked and Loaded
                    • May 2011
                    • 17941

                    #1389
                    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    Death rates among total infected?
                    Per reported cases.
                    "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                    "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                    - SeattleUte

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                    • SeattleUte
                      Faith crisis consultant
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 20837

                      #1390
                      Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                      Per reported cases.
                      Not meaningless. But not entirely helpful.
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                      --Jonathan Swift

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                      • myboynoah
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 21719

                        #1391
                        Great news.

                        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                        • Uncle Ted
                          The Big 12 money shot.
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 28853

                          #1392
                          New bill would withhold pay from Senate until coronavirus stimulus package passes


                          Sen. Martha McSally (R-Ariz.) has introduced legislation that would withhold pay from all Senate members until the chamber passes a coronavirus stimulus package in response to the national outbreak.


                          “If Americans aren’t getting paid, then neither should the Senators failing to support the workers and families who need help making ends meet,” McSally said in a statement on Tuesday.
                          [...]
                          https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...imulus-package

                          Cut off their health insurance as well.
                          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • myboynoah
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 21719

                            #1393
                            Dang.

                            A Swiss hotel is offering a luxury quarantine package — including a $500 coronavirus test

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                            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                            • myboynoah
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 21719

                              #1394
                              South Korea agrees to send spare medical equipment to U.S.

                              While both the United States and South Korea discovered their first coronavirus cases on the same day in late January, Seoul has since led the way in rolling out mass testing developed by domestic producers to contain the outbreak.

                              The United States, in contrast, has struggled to make testing widely available as infection rates continue to rise. The World Health Organization warned Tuesday that the United States could become the world’s next outbreak epicenter.
                              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • Uncle Ted
                                The Big 12 money shot.
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 28853

                                #1395
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                Death rates among total infected?
                                Take whatever the number of infected they are reporting and multiple it by 10x:

                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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