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  • Uncle Ted
    The Big 12 money shot.
    • Apr 2010
    • 28853

    #1441
    There is a chance you already have Covid-19 and don't know it...

    Coronavirus: Iceland’s mass testing finds half of carriers show no symptoms

    As the coronavirus pandemic surges worldwide, each piece of data counts in the fight against the deadly pathogen.


    But significant findings about the contagious disease are coming from an unlikely place: Iceland, the tiny Island state with a population of just 364,000 people, where authorities are testing large numbers of the population – without imposing any lockdown or curfew.


    As of Sunday night, the country’s health authorities and the biotechnology firm deCode Genetics have tested more than 10,300 people. That might not sound like a large number, compared to the around 350,000 Americans who have been tested for coronavirus according to the COVID Tracking Project, but it is a far higher percentage of tests per population - a ratio Icelandic authorities have claimed is the highest in the world.

    But it is not just the numbers of people being tested that is unusual about Iceland’s approach.


    Unlike other countries, where people are only tested if they exhibit symptons of coronavirus or have come into contact with known spreaders, the country is testing thousands of people from the general population who don’t exhibit any symptoms of the virus whatsoever – helping to reveal information about the nature of the pathogen and its symptoms.

    While Iceland has only 218 confirmed cases among its tiny population, its testing program has produced crucial data about the coronavirus - that half of those who were tested positive has no coronavirus symptoms.

    This confirms multiple pieces of scientific research that have shown that coronavirus is spread more through people with the virus who show no sign of being sick. Researchers from The University of Texas at Austin had found out that more than 10 percent of patients were infected by somebody who has the virus but does not yet have symptoms.

    “Early results from deCode Genetics indicate that a low proportion of the general population has contracted the virus and that about half of those who tested positive are non-symptomatic,” Thorolfur Guðnason, Iceland’s chief epidemiologist, was quoted as saying BuzzFeed News. “The other half displays very moderate cold-like symptoms.”
    https://english.alarabiya.net/en/fea...ow-no-symptoms
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • myboynoah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 21719

      #1442
      Dang, over 13,000 new cases in the U.S. over the past 24 hours, and half of those in New York. Total deaths now over 1,000.
      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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      • CardiacCoug
        вот так штука
        • Nov 2008
        • 11013

        #1443
        Uhh or maybe just don’t do CPR because it doesn’t ever work for patients with ARDS/pneumonia. Waste of time!

        CPR works great for cardiac patients in the middle of a heart attack and that’s about it.

        This idea of creating a “policy” for every patient is really stupid though. Docs should just use good medical judgment and common sense. If CPR is only going to spray virus around the room and has no chance of working then of course it shouldn’t be done.

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        • myboynoah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 21719

          #1444
          Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
          Uhh or maybe just don’t do CPR because it doesn’t ever work for patients with ARDS/pneumonia. Waste of time!

          CPR works great for cardiac patients in the middle of a heart attack and that’s about it.

          This idea of creating a “policy” for every patient is really stupid though. Docs should just use good medical judgment and common sense. If CPR is only going to spray virus around the room and has no chance of working then of course it shouldn’t be done.
          You're playing God!!!!!
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • wapiti
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 2064

            #1445
            Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
            Like who? What kind of jobs?
            Not career types. Low wage earners, hourly workers, and job hoppers.

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            • myboynoah
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 21719

              #1446
              Originally posted by wapiti View Post
              Not career types. Low wage earners, hourly workers, and job hoppers.
              Yeah, I had a friend who ran a warehouse that was in constant need of blue-collar workers because many of the employees would work just long enough to qualify for unemployment and then quit coming to work so they were let go. He saw it as a cycle. So anyone of that mind will bounce as soon as this goes into effect.

              But then again, they may have bounced anyway.
              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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              • Northwestcoug
                Cocked and Loaded
                • May 2011
                • 17932

                #1447
                Trump admin had access to a 2016 NSC playbook for pandemics. Among other things, it outline makes a simple algorithm on what to do if PPE supplies are threatened.

                https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...council-149285

                Is there sufficient personal protective equipment for healthcare workers who are providing medical care?” the playbook instructs its readers, as one early decision that officials should address when facing a potential pandemic. “If YES: What are the triggers to signal exhaustion of supplies? Are additional supplies available? If NO: Should the Strategic National Stockpile release PPE to states?
                I know this is mostly preaching to the choir. But it’s yet more damning evidence that Trump has failed bigly. We were always going to have to deal with this, but had he taken it seriously a couple of months ago it would be less of a crisis.


                Much more of an asshat than anyone on the left, UT.
                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                - SeattleUte

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                • Omaha 680
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 11171

                  #1448
                  Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                  Dang, over 13,000 new cases in the U.S. over the past 24 hours, and half of those in New York. Total deaths now over 1,000.
                  Yeah who knows how bad it will getis in NYC.

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                  • Northwestcoug
                    Cocked and Loaded
                    • May 2011
                    • 17932

                    #1449
                    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                    Yeah, I had a friend who ran a warehouse that was in constant need of blue-collar workers because many of the employees would work just long enough to qualify for unemployment and then quit coming to work so they were let go. He saw it as a cycle. So anyone of that mind will bounce as soon as this goes into effect.

                    But then again, they may have bounced anyway.
                    That’s my point, which I probably didn’t articulate well. I heard Graham use the example of nurses being tempted to take unemployment instead of working, because of the largesse of temporary unemployment benefits. I don’t see that happening with skilled labor. And frankly unskilled labor will likely need the boost.
                    "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                    "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                    - SeattleUte

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                    • myboynoah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 21719

                      #1450
                      Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                      That’s my point, which I probably didn’t articulate well. I heard Graham use the example of nurses being tempted to take unemployment instead of working, because of the largesse of temporary unemployment benefits. I don’t see that happening with skilled labor. And frankly unskilled labor will likely need the boost.
                      Yeah, that's a horrible example. Graham is a dolt asshat. (mrs. myboynoah is/was a nurse and I could not imagine her bouncing under these circumstances.)

                      The good thing about it all is that it will mean more money into the economy, which is important over the next several months.
                      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                      • Uncle Ted
                        The Big 12 money shot.
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 28853

                        #1451
                        Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                        Much more of an asshat than anyone on the left, UT.
                        IDK, NWCoug... Folks really like the asshat's show on TV:

                        Trump’s Daily Briefings Are Getting Huge Ratings — And Leftists Hate Them

                        The ratings for President Trump’s daily briefing are soaring, and leftists are getting apoplectic.

                        The New York Times reluctantly admitted on Wednesday that the president’s daily coronavirus updates are garnering an average audience of 8.5 million on cable news, adding, “roughly the viewership of the season finale of ‘The Bachelor.’”

                        The Times moaned, “And the numbers are continuing to rise, driven by intense concern about the virus and the housebound status of millions of Americans who are practicing social distancing. On Monday, nearly 12.2 million people watched Mr. Trump’s briefing on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC, according to Nielsen — ‘Monday Night Football’ numbers. Millions more are watching on ABC, CBS, NBC and online streaming sites.”
                        [...]
                        The ratings for President Trump’s daily briefing are soaring, and leftists are getting apoplectic.The New York Times reluctantly admitted on Wednesday that the president’s daily coronavirus updates are garnering an average audience of 8.5 million on cable news, adding, “roughly the viewership of the season finale of ‘The Bachelor.’”


                        How is anyone on the left's show doing for ratings?
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • LVAllen
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 3235

                          #1452
                          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                          IDK, NWCoug... Folks really like the asshat's show on TV:


                          The ratings for President Trump’s daily briefing are soaring, and leftists are getting apoplectic.The New York Times reluctantly admitted on Wednesday that the president’s daily coronavirus updates are garnering an average audience of 8.5 million on cable news, adding, “roughly the viewership of the season finale of ‘The Bachelor.’”


                          How is anyone on the left's show doing for ratings?
                          People are scared, Ted. They want to hear the latest from a reliable source. Fauci is a clear source of reason.

                          You think Dimwitted Don is the reason for the ratings? Some folks never got the lesson parents desperately try to instill in their 6th graders that you shouldn't be a raging asshole, even it you think it will make you popular.

                          Dimwitted Don is a petulant child.
                          Last edited by LVAllen; 03-25-2020, 09:04 PM.

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                          • Northwestcoug
                            Cocked and Loaded
                            • May 2011
                            • 17932

                            #1453
                            Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                            IDK, NWCoug... Folks really like the asshat's show on TV:


                            The ratings for President Trump’s daily briefing are soaring, and leftists are getting apoplectic.The New York Times reluctantly admitted on Wednesday that the president’s daily coronavirus updates are garnering an average audience of 8.5 million on cable news, adding, “roughly the viewership of the season finale of ‘The Bachelor.’”


                            How is anyone on the left's show doing for ratings?
                            LOL, Dailywire link. Don’t ever change, Ted.
                            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                            - SeattleUte

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                            • myboynoah
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 21719

                              #1454
                              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                              Yeah, that's a horrible example. Graham is a dolt asshat. (mrs. myboynoah is/was a nurse and I could not imagine her bouncing under these circumstances.)

                              The good thing about it all is that it will mean more money into the economy, which is important over the next several months.
                              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • Color Me Badd Fan
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 12519

                                #1455
                                Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                                Trump admin had access to a 2016 NSC playbook for pandemics. Among other things, it outline makes a simple algorithm on what to do if PPE supplies are threatened.

                                https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...council-149285



                                I know this is mostly preaching to the choir. But it’s yet more damning evidence that Trump has failed bigly. We were always going to have to deal with this, but had he taken it seriously a couple of months ago it would be less of a crisis.


                                Much more of an asshat than anyone on the left, UT.
                                Admittedly I'm not very skilled with the search function on this website, but I didn't find a single post you've made about Bill de Blasio on here. While you're citing this NSC playbook and roasting Trump for not having the foresight that basically the entirety of Europe also lacked, you seem unwilling to say anything about the gaping asshole in New York who was telling everyone to stand up to the xenophobic Trump and carry on with their lives after he shut down travel out of China back in February. The subways were literally still packed less than two weeks ago. South Korea, Japan and Taiwan have past experience with things like SARS, they knew how to deal with this already. Of course it would have been nice to follow their example.

                                What's the more proximate cause of what's happening in New York right now -- Bill de Blasio not getting control of the public transportation system in NYC or Trump not reading the 2016 pandemic book? It's fine and perfectly in order to criticize Trump's performance here, but you seem to be oddly obsessed with it and while showing little concern for the biggest idiot of them all.

                                But again, I've never been able to figure out the search function on here, maybe you've already talked about that.
                                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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