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  • Uncle Ted
    The Big 12 money shot.
    • Apr 2010
    • 28853

    #6421
    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post

    The fact that you think this matters is evidence of my point that icons of our cultural institutions like Rogan are our new religious leaders. They tell us what to believe, what is right and wrong, what to do. Yes, religion is officially dead. I have seen this coming for a long time, but when active LDS en mass give the finger to their prophet, for me that’s the sign that we have arrived at the practical end of religion. (Part of the problem is religion has been too tentative and late in addressing a plague of all things. Good grief.) Part of me says, good riddance. But what has replaced religion may be worse.

    Now, there’s a new hierarchy, like Bishops and Cardinals. Joe Rogan has 7.5 million twitter followers. Ben Shapiro has 3.5, so Shapiro brown noses Rogan. ZDogg is just a parish priest. He’s not going to burn a bridge with Rogan. He’d probably love to be on his show (or get back to it if it’s happen). We’ve seen that entertainers may be far enough down the pecking order that hey will tolerate a much more powerful colleague doing an obscene thing in front of them with acquiescence. People who criticize Rogan don’t care about his goodwill, like Bill Maher, who has 11 million Twitter followers, or, Howard Stern, who’s more like a Holy Fool.

    Moreover, it’s an unvirtuous circle. Rogan etc care most about their revenue and therefore their loyal base. So they are good at perceiving and saying what their base wants to hear. But when they and people like them invoke “science” it’s like Putin saying he won an election. If we’re going to be guided buy science, we need to accept science in full.

    In recognition that cultural icons are our new clergy, I have never really opposed cancellation (depending on the facts, of course). Much is expected. Our new religious leaders need to be spotless. And if it were me, Rogan would be cancelled; burned; completely destroyed. He would burn like Gruden. His antivaxx proselytizing has been more damaging to he country overall than neo-Nazi Richard Spencer’s racist and anti Semitic message. Spencer doesn’t have millions of followers. People that Rogan has had on his show like Berenson and that horrible man with the eyebrows and his woman friend peddling Ivermectin as substitute for vaccines are no better than neo-Nazis and their motivations are just as base. Many thousands are dead because they listened to these false prophets.

    Me, I’m the same as always, though. I say who cares what the likes of Rogan say. We all have a personal responsibility to consult the right experts, but beyond that, none of us should be thinking for ourselves. I listen to Drs. Paul Offit, Monica Gandhi, others like them.

    Oh no... did that bad Rogan hurt your feelings? Maybe you should have some warm milk.

    The antivaxxers are going to get sick and die taking that horse dewormer... Oh wait, Joe Rogan survived. OK, there will be an outlier or two. I just read that Colin Powell just died from Covid-19 complications. He must have not been fully vaccinated and gotten the five booster shots.
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • Northwestcoug
      Cocked and Loaded
      • May 2011
      • 17950

      #6422
      Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

      Oh no... did that bad Rogan hurt your feelings? Maybe you should have some warm milk.

      The antivaxxers are going to get sick and die taking that horse dewormer... Oh wait, Joe Rogan survived. OK, there will be an outlier or two. I just read that Colin Powell just died from Covid-19 complications. He must have not been fully vaccinated and gotten the five booster shots.
      nope. He was fully vaccinated. But he also had myeloma, which is exactly the scenario you’d expect a vaccinated person would struggle with COVID. But have fun with the disinformation today. Other anti-vaxxers are doing the same on Twitter.


      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
      - SeattleUte

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69558

        #6423
        Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
        The antivaxxers are going to get sick and die taking that horse dewormer... Oh wait, Joe Rogan survived. OK, there will be an outlier or two. I just read that Colin Powell just died from Covid-19 complications. He must have not been fully vaccinated and gotten the five booster shots.
        A straw man, two anecdotes, and a non sequiter all in one short paragraph.

        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • SeattleUte
          Faith crisis consultant
          • Nov 2008
          • 20837

          #6424
          Both Ted and Joe Rogan are vaccinated.
          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

          --Jonathan Swift

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          • fusnik
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 4475

            #6425
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

            A straw man, two anecdotes, and a non sequiter all in one short paragraph.

            Leaving off the Rogan took monoclonal antibodies (which probs cured him) and was on an IV drip for 3 days.

            Also forgetting that Powell was 84 and had myeloma/blood cancer.

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            • PaloAltoCougar
              Semper infra dignitatem
              • Nov 2008
              • 16921

              #6426
              So with the FDA's announcement today that the Moderna booster has been approved, AND that mix-and-match boosters of any approved vaccines are allowed, I'm wondering whether to get the Pfizer booster. I'm glad I got the Moderna for the first two ("We're No. 1!), but wonder if a Pfizer chaser might be better. I suspect either one is fine, but I'm curious if future studies will favor heterologous vaxing.

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              • myboynoah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 21719

                #6427
                Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                So with the FDA's announcement today that the Moderna booster has been approved, AND that mix-and-match boosters of any approved vaccines are allowed, I'm wondering whether to get the Pfizer booster. I'm glad I got the Moderna for the first two ("We're No. 1!), but wonder if a Pfizer chaser might be better. I suspect either one is fine, but I'm curious if future studies will favor heterologous vaxing.
                Dang, I'm impressed. Sounding like a real epidemiologist.
                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                • PaloAltoCougar
                  Semper infra dignitatem
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 16921

                  #6428
                  Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

                  Dang, I'm impressed. Sounding like a real epidemiologist.
                  Word-a-day toilet paper paying off. Well, that, and the FDA announcement.

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69558

                    #6429
                    Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                    So with the FDA's announcement today that the Moderna booster has been approved, AND that mix-and-match boosters of any approved vaccines are allowed, I'm wondering whether to get the Pfizer booster. I'm glad I got the Moderna for the first two ("We're No. 1!), but wonder if a Pfizer chaser might be better. I suspect either one is fine, but I'm curious if future studies will favor heterologous vaxing.
                    We are getting a moderna chaser after our J&J shot. They say that is a particularly effective mix because you get the benefits of two different types of vaccines.

                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • BigPiney
                      Huge Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 12337

                      #6430
                      I got Pfizer first. Which would be the best booster? I'm booster curious.

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                      • Northwestcoug
                        Cocked and Loaded
                        • May 2011
                        • 17950

                        #6431
                        Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
                        I got Pfizer first. Which would be the best booster? I'm booster curious.
                        why not go both ways?

                        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                        - SeattleUte

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                        • Uncle Ted
                          The Big 12 money shot.
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 28853

                          #6432
                          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                          We are getting a moderna chaser after our J&J shot. They say that is a particularly effective mix because you get the benefits of two different types of vaccines.

                          I got the delta covid chaser after the J&J... My plan now is to be around as many people as possible so I will get "boosters" from all the new variants! i.e., Go to as many football games as possible where lots of people are not wearing masks and screaming:



                          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #6433
                            What the heck is wrong with Joe Biden walking through a restaurant without wearing his mask!?!

                            Biden’s Maskless Exit from a D.C. Restaurant Invites Criticism

                            Photographers and diners captured images of the president walking through Fiola Mare without wearing a mask

                            President Joe Biden enjoyed a rare meal out in D.C. at posh Italian restaurant Fiola Mare this weekend, drawing attention to the established power dining spot in Georgetown — and becoming the latest prominent politician to get caught with their mask down.

                            Observers captured photos and videos of the president and First Lady Jill Biden walking through the restaurant to leave without wearing masks. Since D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser reinstated the city’s indoor mask mandate in July, diners are supposed to cover their faces whenever they’re not actively eating and drinking.
                            [...]
                            https://dc.eater.com/2021/10/18/2273...-fiola-mare-dc

                            They have mask wearing rules for a reason!

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                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • SeattleUte
                              Faith crisis consultant
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 20837

                              #6434
                              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              What the heck is wrong with Joe Biden walking through a restaurant without wearing his mask!?!


                              https://dc.eater.com/2021/10/18/2273...-fiola-mare-dc

                              They have mask wearing rules for a reason!

                              ful1hci2uou71.png
                              There's nothing wrong with leaving a building without a mask.
                              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                              --Jonathan Swift

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                              • Uncle Ted
                                The Big 12 money shot.
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 28853

                                #6435
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post

                                There's nothing wrong with leaving a building without a mask.
                                Sure... But Uncle Joe was walking through the restaurant. You need to have your mask on inside because that is how this virus works. Also, we must social distance before getting on the plane! But once we are on the virus becomes contained to the individual passengers because the airlines have installed this invisible force field we can't see.
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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