At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

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  • dabrockster
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10947

    #4411
    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
    So what did you mean?
    Exactly what I said. He’s running around doing interviews now that he is a celebrity.

    You guys can twist into whatever you want..


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    • Moliere
      One man.....one pie
      • Oct 2009
      • 27875

      #4412
      Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
      So what did you mean?
      All I meant is that he sucks at baseball. He’s much better at infectious diseases.


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      • dabrockster
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 10947

        #4413


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        • tooblue
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 5132

          #4414

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          • beefytee
            Board eye candy
            • Mar 2009
            • 7542

            #4415
            How does the fast track vaccine testing work? I assume they give the vaccine to a small number off individuals and then check the antibody blood test results, but fast tracking, they can’t really validate with certainty that no one has caught the virus after getting the vaccine since it is such a short time period. I assume we can’t ethically exposed people to the virus. How big of a risk is there that we get an ineffective vaccine or are the antibody tests enough?

            Obviously, it is worth the risk fast tracking this since no vaccine is much worse than even a less than effective vaccine.

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            • Moliere
              One man.....one pie
              • Oct 2009
              • 27875

              #4416
              Originally posted by tooblue View Post
              That's a good video but I still hate it when anyone uses case counts as any sort of comparison. It's a meaningless comparison, especially when you are showing July case count relative to March/April. I guess if the intention is to scare people, then it's effective.
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Northwestcoug
                Cocked and Loaded
                • May 2011
                • 18013

                #4417
                Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                How does the fast track vaccine testing work? I assume they give the vaccine to a small number off individuals and then check the antibody blood test results, but fast tracking, they can’t really validate with certainty that no one has caught the virus after getting the vaccine since it is such a short time period. I assume we can’t ethically exposed people to the virus. How big of a risk is there that we get an ineffective vaccine or are the antibody tests enough?

                Obviously, it is worth the risk fast tracking this since no vaccine is much worse than even a less than effective vaccine.
                Actually, people are debating that right now. It’s been done for previous vaccines. But it’s different for coronavirus since there’s no cure if an exposed patient gets really sick.

                https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/h...ne-trials.html
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                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
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                • tooblue
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 5132

                  #4418
                  Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  That's a good video but I still hate it when anyone uses case counts as any sort of comparison. It's a meaningless comparison, especially when you are showing July case count relative to March/April. I guess if the intention is to scare people, then it's effective.
                  How can you not be alarmed at what is happening set against the statements made by Trump? So, then is something like the letter linked to below merely a scare tactic, or should the US seriously consider a reset?



                  "The best thing for the nation is not to reopen as quickly as possible, it’s to save as many lives as possible. And reopening before suppressing the virus isn’t going to help the economy. Economists have gone on record saying that the only way to “restore the economy is to address the pandemic itself,” pointing out that until we find a way to boost testing and develop and distribute a vaccine, open or not, people will not be in the mood to participate.

                  ... Tell the American people the truth about the virus, even when it’s hard. Take bold action to save lives -- even when it means shutting down again."


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                  • Mormon Red Death
                    BYU Delenda Est
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 8077

                    #4419
                    Here's a question I have.

                    What is the effectiveness of the face shield vs the cloth mask? How much more effectiveness to have with both?

                    When I say effectiveness I mean of stopping the spread.
                    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                    • myboynoah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 21719

                      #4420
                      Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                      Exactly what I said. He’s running around doing interviews now that he is a celebrity.

                      You guys can twist into whatever you want..


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                      And it bothers you that people are asking his expertise?
                      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                      • Moliere
                        One man.....one pie
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 27875

                        #4421
                        Originally posted by tooblue View Post
                        How can you not be alarmed at what is happening set against the statements made by Trump? So, then is something like the letter linked to below merely a scare tactic, or should the US seriously consider a reset?



                        "The best thing for the nation is not to reopen as quickly as possible, it’s to save as many lives as possible. And reopening before suppressing the virus isn’t going to help the economy. Economists have gone on record saying that the only way to “restore the economy is to address the pandemic itself,” pointing out that until we find a way to boost testing and develop and distribute a vaccine, open or not, people will not be in the mood to participate.

                        ... Tell the American people the truth about the virus, even when it’s hard. Take bold action to save lives -- even when it means shutting down again."


                        Who said I’m not alarmed? I’m more anti Trump than most on this site. I’m just pointing out misleading way of using statistics. We didn’t have testing capacity in March/April so of course the observed count is lower than now. But are total infections lower? No one knows. Texas hospitals aren’t at capacity like the hospitals were in New York. Texas seems to be handling the localized surges much better than New York did.


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                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • old_gregg
                          scaly man fish
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 16915

                          #4422
                          Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                          Exactly what I said. He’s running around doing interviews now that he is a celebrity.

                          You guys can twist into whatever you want..


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                          nobody is twisting anything, you dingleberry. you said (and believe?) a dumb thing, and people are giving you the benefit of the doubt to try to proffer some not dumb explanation for the dumb thing you said and probably believe. but, those of us that have played the brockster game know the real truth: dumb can't ever be not dumb.
                          Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                          • tooblue
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 5132

                            #4423
                            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                            Who said I’m not alarmed? I’m more anti Trump than most on this site. I’m just pointing out misleading way of using statistics. We didn’t have testing capacity in March/April so of course the observed count is lower than now. But are total infections lower? No one knows. Texas hospitals aren’t at capacity like the hospitals were in New York. Texas seems to be handling the localized surges much better than New York did.


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                            It was a rhetorical question in response to your comment, and I agree that the manner in which the stats are used is potentially misleading. What is promising is the fact that Health systems appear to be better at treating people. New York was unfortunate enough to suffer first, but a lot was learned concerning what to do and not do. Clearly though, infections are on the rise and the lack of leadership in the Whitehouse is infuriating.
                            Last edited by tooblue; 07-24-2020, 10:02 AM.

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                            • Commando
                              Explosivo
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 20748

                              #4424
                              Originally posted by dabrockster View Post


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                              Oh noes. He's sitting in isolation with his family with nobody else in sight and removed the mask.
                              "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                              • dabrockster
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10947

                                #4425
                                Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                                nobody is twisting anything, you dingleberry. you said (and believe?) a dumb thing, and people are giving you the benefit of the doubt to try to proffer some not dumb explanation for the dumb thing you said and probably believe. but, those of us that have played the brockster game know the real truth: dumb can't ever be not dumb.
                                OG.. You are a chirping chihuahua that loves to chime in with no valid comment just piling to feel self-important..

                                Many of us who have played the OG game, know the truth: A follower is always a follower.

                                To that end. Fuck off.


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