At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

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  • myboynoah
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 21719

    #4396
    How Deadly Is Covid-19? Researchers Are Getting Closer to an Answer

    Researchers, initially analyzing data from outbreaks on cruise ships and more recently from surveys of thousands of people in virus hot spots, have now conducted dozens of studies to calculate the infection fatality rate of Covid-19.

    That research—examining deaths out of the total number of infections, which includes unreported cases—suggests that Covid-19 kills from around 0.3% to 1.5% of people infected. Most studies put the rate between 0.5% and 1.0%, meaning that for every 1,000 people who get infected, from five to 10 would die on average.

    The estimates suggest the new coronavirus is deadlier than the seasonal flu, though not as lethal as Ebola and other infectious diseases that have emerged in recent years. The coronavirus is killing more people than the deadlier diseases, however, in part because it is more infectious.

    “It’s not just what the infection-fatality rate is. It’s also how contagious the disease is, and Covid is very contagious,” said Eric Toner, an emergency medicine physician and senior scholar at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, who studies health-care preparedness for epidemics and infectious diseases. “It’s the combination of the fatality rate and the infectiousness that makes this such a dangerous disease.”
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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    • Moliere
      One man.....one pie
      • Oct 2009
      • 27866

      #4397
      Pfizer, BioNTech Get $1.95 Billion Covid-19 Vaccine Order From U.S. Government

      The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine development program is evaluating at least four experimental vaccines. If the studies are successful, Pfizer and BioNTech expect to seek emergency use authorization or some form of regulatory approval as early as October.

      The companies currently expect to manufacture globally up to 100 million doses by the end of 2020 and potentially more than 1.3 billion doses by the end of 2021, subject to final dose selection from their clinical trial.
      Great news and a good decision by Trump to secure an order.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • Uncle Ted
        The Big 12 money shot.
        • Apr 2010
        • 28853

        #4398
        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        Pfizer, BioNTech Get $1.95 Billion Covid-19 Vaccine Order From U.S. Government

        Great news and a good decision by Trump to secure an order.
        Yeah, now the CDC says that inflection rate is 10 times higher than they previously thought in places...

        CDC: Antibody tests show virus rates 10 times higher than reported

        Reported coronavirus cases vastly underestimate the true number of infections, U.S. government data suggest, echoing results from a smaller study last month.

        Two data sets from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published Tuesday — one in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine and another on the agency’s website, based on follow-up data — say true COVID-19 rates are more than 10 times higher than reported cases in some U.S. regions.
        [...]


        Good news for the BYU/Bama game.
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • Uncle Ted
          The Big 12 money shot.
          • Apr 2010
          • 28853

          #4399
          From now on we need to refer to Covid-19 as the 'Drumpf virus'...


          Pelosi calls coronavirus the 'Trump virus'

          Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) dubbed the coronavirus the “Trump virus” on Tuesday evening, ratcheting up her rhetoric over President Trump’s handling of the pandemic.

          "Well, I think with the president's comments today, he recognized the mistakes he has made by now embracing mask-wearing and the recognition this is not a hoax. It is a pandemic that has gotten worse before it will get better because of his inaction," Pelosi said on CNN's "The Situation Room."

          "In fact, clearly, it is the Trump virus," Pelosi added, reiterating the phrase later in the interview as well.
          [...]
          https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...he-trump-virus
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • snowcat
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 1348

            #4400
            The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It

            As professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, I have authored over 300 peer-reviewed publications and currently hold senior positions on the editorial boards of several leading journals. I am usually accustomed to advocating for positions within the mainstream of medicine, so have been flummoxed to find that, in the midst of a crisis, I am fighting for a treatment that the data fully support but which, for reasons having nothing to do with a correct understanding of the science, has been pushed to the sidelines. As a result, tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily. Fortunately, the situation can be reversed easily and quickly.

            I am referring, of course, to the medication hydroxychloroquine. When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective, especially when given in combination with the antibiotics azithromycin or doxycycline and the nutritional supplement zinc.
            A reverse natural experiment happened in Switzerland. On May 27, the Swiss national government banned outpatient use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19. Around June 10, COVID-19 deaths increased four-fold and remained elevated. On June 11, the Swiss government revoked the ban, and on June 23 the death rate reverted to what it had been beforehand. People who die from COVID-19 live about three to five weeks from the start of symptoms, which makes the evidence of a causal relation in these experiments strong. Both episodes suggest that a combination of hydroxychloroquine and its companion medications reduces mortality and should be immediately adopted as the new standard of care in high-risk patients.
            Why has hydroxychloroquine been disregarded?

            First, as all know, the medication has become highly politicized. For many, it is viewed as a marker of political identity, on both sides of the political spectrum. Nobody needs me to remind them that this is not how medicine should proceed. We must judge this medication strictly on the science. When doctors graduate from medical school, they formally promise to make the health and life of the patient their first consideration, without biases of race, religion, nationality, social standing—or political affiliation. Lives must come first.

            Second, the drug has not been used properly in many studies. Hydroxychloroquine has shown major success when used early in high-risk people but, as one would expect for an antiviral, much less success when used late in the disease course. Even so, it has demonstrated significant benefit in large hospital studies in Michigan and New York City when started within the first 24 to 48 hours after admission.

            In fact, as inexpensive, oral and widely available medications, and a nutritional supplement, the combination of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin or doxycycline, and zinc are well-suited for early treatment in the outpatient setting. The combination should be prescribed in high-risk patients immediately upon clinical suspicion of COVID-19 disease, without waiting for results of testing. Delays in waiting before starting the medications can reduce their efficacy.

            One of the grandest benefits of the enlightenment was the realization that our moral sense must be based on the welfare of living individuals, not on their immortal souls. Honest and passionate folks can strongly disagree regarding spiritual matters, so it's imperative that we not allow such considerations to infringe on the real happiness of real people.

            Woot

            I believe religion has much inherent good and has born many good fruits.
            SU

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            • Moliere
              One man.....one pie
              • Oct 2009
              • 27866

              #4401
              Fauci should stick to his day job.


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              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Jarid in Cedar
                CS Institutional Memory
                • Jun 2009
                • 13234

                #4402
                Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                Fauci should stick to his day job.


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                Fauci should be allowed to do his day job.
                "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                -Rick Majerus

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                • myboynoah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 21719

                  #4403
                  Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                  Fauci should be allowed to do his day job.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • Moliere
                    One man.....one pie
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 27866

                    #4404
                    Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                    Fauci should be allowed to do his day job.



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                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • Uncle Ted
                      The Big 12 money shot.
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 28853

                      #4405
                      Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                      Oh good hell... who let this guy out of the lab?
                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • dabrockster
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10942

                        #4406
                        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                        Fauci should stick to his day job.


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                        Seems a bit of media whore who likes to hear himself talk..

                        Calls himself an optimist and then says shit like that..


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                        • Commando
                          Explosivo
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 20748

                          #4407
                          Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                          Seems a bit of media whore who likes to hear himself talk..

                          Calls himself an optimist and then says shit like that..
                          lol I guess he shouldn't have been such an asshole and should have just agreed with Trump that we'd be open by Easter!
                          "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                          • dabrockster
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10942

                            #4408
                            Originally posted by Commando View Post
                            lol I guess he shouldn't have been such an asshole and should have just agreed with Trump that we'd be open by Easter!
                            Yeah. Cause that is what I meant..[emoji2357]


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                            • dabrockster
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10942

                              #4409
                              The negative effect of COVID done by a Canadian teen..

                              Pretty powerful..





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                              • myboynoah
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 21719

                                #4410
                                Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                                Yeah. Cause that is what I meant..[emoji2357]


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                                So what did you mean?
                                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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