At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

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  • Moliere
    One man.....one pie
    • Oct 2009
    • 27807

    #4381
    Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    Some pretty encouraging vaccine news out today. Oxford's vaccine induces both humoral and cellular immunity against SARS-CoV-2.

    https://marlin-prod.literatumonline....3620316044.pdf
    Ah, I see you are trying to shed the title of vaccine skeptic...
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • falafel
      loves to talk on things
      • Mar 2009
      • 37886

      #4382
      Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
      And some more good news from CDC. Updated epidemiologic findings:

      -14 day quarantine can probably be reduced to 10 days. Infectious virus isn't found in nasal passages after 10 days of onset of symptoms.
      -High-risk household and other contact exposure doesn't seem to lead to infection if contact happened 6 days after onset of symptoms. This is because the concentration of virus in nasal passages rapidly decreases after onset of symptoms.
      -Reinfection still hasn't bee documented.

      https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...bCqxCzhCq7M0Bo
      Did Trump vet these numbers? Or is the CDC going rogue again?
      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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      • Moliere
        One man.....one pie
        • Oct 2009
        • 27807

        #4383
        The last paragraph from this WSJ article pretty much hits the nail on the head:

        “When I look at Europe, there is no single, best way: There are lots of ways,” he adds. “There is no magic formula, but they all begin with taking the virus seriously and not having debates about inane things.”
        Basically Europe has somewhat reopened without having a huge surge in cases and every country has done it a bit differently. But what they have in common is taking the virus seriously and not arguing over wearing masks.
        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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        • myboynoah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 21719

          #4384
          Originally posted by Moliere View Post
          The last paragraph from this WSJ article pretty much hits the nail on the head:



          Basically Europe has somewhat reopened without having a huge surge in cases and every country has done it a bit differently. But what they have in common is taking the virus seriously and not arguing over wearing masks.
          Yeah, why all that debate and confusion? People should have been listening to djt all along.



          Plus, sounds like djt is going to start doing those task force briefings again, so that should finally get us back on track.
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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          • Northwestcoug
            Cocked and Loaded
            • May 2011
            • 17932

            #4385
            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
            Ah, I see you are trying to shed the title of vaccine skeptic...
            Yeah, SU burned me pretty badly when he dug up an old post where I was wrong about testing. It burned me badly enough that I’m jumping on the hopeful bandwagon!
            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
            - SeattleUte

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            • Moliere
              One man.....one pie
              • Oct 2009
              • 27807

              #4386
              Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
              Yeah, SU burned me pretty badly when he dug up an old post where I was wrong about testing. It burned me badly enough that I’m jumping on the hopeful bandwagon!
              Welcome aboard the US Covid train!!!
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Moliere
                One man.....one pie
                • Oct 2009
                • 27807

                #4387
                I found this little tussle between moms on my local school district site to be pretty funny.
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                so basically, don't worry about what your dr says about the virus since random lady on the internet knows better.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • BigFatMeanie
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 7094

                  #4388
                  Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  I found this little tussle between moms on my local school district site to be pretty funny.
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                  so basically, don't worry about what your dr says about the virus since random lady on the internet knows better.
                  The science is clear!

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                  • Commando
                    Explosivo
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 20748

                    #4389
                    Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                    The science is clear!
                    This dumb f*k doesn't know shit. I have first hand experience and um... yes kids are little covid super spreaders.
                    "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                    • Commando
                      Explosivo
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 20748

                      #4390
                      Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                      Yeah, why all that debate and confusion? People should have been listening to djt all along.



                      Plus, sounds like djt is going to start doing those task force briefings again, so that should finally get us back on track.

                      What kind of idiot is he, anyway? "The Invisible China Virus?" Why not say Covid or The Coronavirus, like EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE PLANET? And it took him seriously 6 months to publicly endorse wearing a mask, even though he's been downplaying it this whole time? Every dumb ass we've ever talked to in the last 4 months who refuses to wear a mask is more than likely taking the lead of their 'favorite' president, who has managed to politicize our national response to a medical/scientific issue.
                      "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                      • Walter Sobchak
                        Adventurer
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 3815

                        #4391
                        Don't leave home without your mask.... and your tape measure.

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                        • Katy Lied
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 9435

                          #4392
                          Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                          And some more good news from CDC. Updated epidemiologic findings:

                          -14 day quarantine can probably be reduced to 10 days. Infectious virus isn't found in nasal passages after 10 days of onset of symptoms.
                          -High-risk household and other contact exposure doesn't seem to lead to infection if contact happened 6 days after onset of symptoms. This is because the concentration of virus in nasal passages rapidly decreases after onset of symptoms.
                          -Reinfection still hasn't bee documented.

                          https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...bCqxCzhCq7M0Bo

                          Im sorry, but if they're not measuring the virus in the butt, I am still for 14 days. How hard is it to do two swabs?

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                          • Eddie
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 8098

                            #4393
                            Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                            The science is clear!
                            I really love how both sides use "the science is clear" as a mic drop moment. "Masks help, the science is clear!"; "Masks are worthless, the science is clear!"; "Asymptomatic people are not contagious, the science is clear!"; "If you are outside you won't catch it, the science is clear!"

                            Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                            Don't leave home without your mask.... and your tape measure.

                            "PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE RUINING IT FOR ALL OF US!!!"

                            OK - I was doing well up until the end when she shouted that - then I actually laughed out loud and got the woman in the office down the hall to come ask me what was so funny.

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                            • Uncle Ted
                              The Big 12 money shot.
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 28853

                              #4394
                              Good news everyone... Covid-19 vaccines are showing promise:

                              Oxford's Covid-19 vaccine appears safe and induces immune response, early results suggest, but more research is needed

                              Results from trials involving three different coronavirus vaccines released Monday, all showing positive results, with evidence the vaccines can produce immune responses that would be expected to protect people against infection.

                              They all also appeared to be safe, although it will take studies with more people to show how safe they really are and whether they can prevent infection.

                              Early results of a closely watched Phase 1/2 trial published in The Lancet suggest a coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca is safe and induces an immune response. However, researchers stressed more study is needed to know whether the vaccine protects people against the virus.

                              Phase 2 results for one vaccine candidate made by Chinese company CanSino Biologics were also published in the medical journal The Lancet and early results from Phase 1/2 trials of the vaccine made by Pfizer and BioNTech were released in a pre-print paper that has not yet been peer-reviewed.
                              [...]


                              Here is a summary of some other vaccines trials.

                              Come on vaccines... BYU needs to play Bama!
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                              • wapiti
                                Junior Member
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 2064

                                #4395
                                Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                                I really love how both sides use "the science is clear" as a mic drop moment. "Masks help, the science is clear!"; "Masks are worthless, the science is clear!"; "Asymptomatic people are not contagious, the science is clear!"; "If you are outside you won't catch it, the science is clear!"



                                "PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE RUINING IT FOR ALL OF US!!!"

                                OK - I was doing well up until the end when she shouted that - then I actually laughed out loud and got the woman in the office down the hall to come ask me what was so funny.
                                I blame the climate alarmists for this.

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