I had two weeks in Princeville Kauai booked starting the end of this month. I had to cancel for the same reason as PAC. There's simply no way to get guaranteed test results in three days.
At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?
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Actually... this comes back in 24 hours.Originally posted by Shaka View PostI had two weeks in Princeville Kauai booked starting the end of this month. I had to cancel for the same reason as PAC. There's simply no way to get guaranteed test results in three days.
"I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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I bet the number of people who could do an effective "self-collected nasal swab" is pretty low and therefore I would guess that test has an inflated false-negative rate.Originally posted by Commando View Post
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Latter-Day Saint mag? Seriously? No thanks. I'm sticking With Bill Maher.Last edited by SeattleUte; 07-12-2020, 11:56 AM.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
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Don't forget Ben Shapiro.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostLatter-Day Saint mag? Seriously? No thanks. I'm sticking With Bill Maher."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostDon't forget Ben Shapiro.
"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
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Uh yeah, that's the point. If they tested positive they can't go to Hawaii.Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View PostI bet the number of people who could do an effective "self-collected nasal swab" is pretty low and therefore I would guess that test has an inflated false-negative rate."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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I don't understand why they let people do their own swab. Seems like a useless effort.Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View PostI bet the number of people who could do an effective "self-collected nasal swab" is pretty low and therefore I would guess that test has an inflated false-negative rate.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
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Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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WTF?

America is just broken.
Long delays in getting test results hobble coronavirus response
Test results for the novel coronavirus are taking so long to come back across the United States that experts say the results are often proving useless in the campaign to control the deadly disease.
Some testing sites are struggling to provide results in five to seven days. Others are taking even longer. Outbreaks across the Sun Belt have strained labs beyond capacity. That rising demand, in turn, has caused shortages of swabs, chemical reagents and equipment as far away as New York.
The long testing turnaround times are making it impossible for America to replicate the central strategy used by other countries to effectively contain the virus — test, trace and isolate. Like catching any killer, speed is of the essence when it comes to the coronavirus.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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I'm the guy who extols the Canadian health care system here, warts and all. But the fact that we are screwing up nationwide testing for COVID-19 when other countries have figured it out honestly makes me despondent. There are multiple other failures of government and health care system that the pandemic has laid bare. But we can't even test properly, even after half a year of dealing with this. I can't even comprehend how big a failure this is for the supposed best health care system in the world. I mean, really?!? What good is freedom in our system if we can't properly test for a pandemic?Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
I know I'm not going to convert many to the rest of the developed world and accept a more socialized version of health care. But this is just so embarrassing. Does anyone think that if the government had a more centralized role in health care, that they would do worse than we are at testing? Assuming of course, that we had a competent government? Hell, even dream boy Trudeau is more competent at this than we are.
This is all just so disappointing. It really feels like the beginning of the end of American exceptionalism. Yeah I know it sounds hyperbolic. But I'm exhausted after 6 months of fiasco after fiasco."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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I hear you. Gallows humor can only go so far when meeting with those from foreign countries. It's just plain embarrassing now.Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostI'm the guy who extols the Canadian health care system here, warts and all. But the fact that we are screwing up nationwide testing for COVID-19 when other countries have figured it out honestly makes me despondent. There are multiple other failures of government and health care system that the pandemic has laid bare. But we can't even test properly, even after half a year of dealing with this. I can't even comprehend how big a failure this is for the supposed best health care system in the world. I mean, really?!? What good is freedom in our system if we can't properly test for a pandemic?
I know I'm not going to convert many to the rest of the developed world and accept a more socialized version of health care. But this is just so embarrassing. Does anyone think that if the government had a more centralized role in health care, that they would do worse than we are at testing? Assuming of course, that we had a competent government? Hell, even dream boy Trudeau is more competent at this than we are.
This is all just so disappointing. It really feels like the beginning of the end of American exceptionalism. Yeah I know it sounds hyperbolic. But I'm exhausted after 6 months of fiasco after fiasco.
To be at this point after all we've gone through is abhorrent. I simply can't believe it. I have no doubt that even under a more centralized healthcare system, djt would have screwed this pooch just as "bigly."
Fuck, fuck, fuck, and fuck.
We'll hit 140,000 deaths this week and 200,000 by October or November, laying waste to an economy along the way.Last edited by myboynoah; 07-12-2020, 04:45 PM.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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I don't know how you screw it up. If you are positive, you are shedding millions of viruses and your nasal passage has to be lousy with them. Just get some snot on that swab and you're good.Originally posted by myboynoah View PostI don't understand why they let people do their own swab. Seems like a useless effort.
"I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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"I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Again?Originally posted by Commando View PostAin't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
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GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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