At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

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  • Shaka
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 10438

    #4246
    I had two weeks in Princeville Kauai booked starting the end of this month. I had to cancel for the same reason as PAC. There's simply no way to get guaranteed test results in three days.

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    • Commando
      Explosivo
      • Feb 2009
      • 20748

      #4247
      Originally posted by Shaka View Post
      I had two weeks in Princeville Kauai booked starting the end of this month. I had to cancel for the same reason as PAC. There's simply no way to get guaranteed test results in three days.
      Actually... this comes back in 24 hours.

      "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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      • BigFatMeanie
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 7100

        #4248
        Originally posted by Commando View Post
        Actually... this comes back in 24 hours.

        https://www.everlywell.com/products/covid-19-test/
        I bet the number of people who could do an effective "self-collected nasal swab" is pretty low and therefore I would guess that test has an inflated false-negative rate.

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        • SeattleUte
          Faith crisis consultant
          • Nov 2008
          • 20837

          #4249
          Latter-Day Saint mag? Seriously? No thanks. I'm sticking With Bill Maher.
          Last edited by SeattleUte; 07-12-2020, 11:56 AM.
          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

          --Jonathan Swift

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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69539

            #4250
            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
            Latter-Day Saint mag? Seriously? No thanks. I'm sticking With Bill Maher.
            Don't forget Ben Shapiro.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • Bo Diddley
              Senior
              • Jul 2012
              • 18738

              #4251
              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              Latter-Day Saint mag? Seriously? No thanks. I'm sticking With Bill Maher.
              Should I have used a trigger warning?

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              • Northwestcoug
                Cocked and Loaded
                • May 2011
                • 17948

                #4252
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                Don't forget Ben Shapiro.
                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                - SeattleUte

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                • Moliere
                  One man.....one pie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 27821

                  #4253
                  Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                  I bet the number of people who could do an effective "self-collected nasal swab" is pretty low and therefore I would guess that test has an inflated false-negative rate.
                  Uh yeah, that's the point. If they tested positive they can't go to Hawaii.
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • myboynoah
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 21719

                    #4254
                    Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                    I bet the number of people who could do an effective "self-collected nasal swab" is pretty low and therefore I would guess that test has an inflated false-negative rate.
                    I don't understand why they let people do their own swab. Seems like a useless effort.
                    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                    • myboynoah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 21719

                      #4255
                      WTF?



                      America is just broken.

                      Long delays in getting test results hobble coronavirus response

                      Test results for the novel coronavirus are taking so long to come back across the United States that experts say the results are often proving useless in the campaign to control the deadly disease.

                      Some testing sites are struggling to provide results in five to seven days. Others are taking even longer. Outbreaks across the Sun Belt have strained labs beyond capacity. That rising demand, in turn, has caused shortages of swabs, chemical reagents and equipment as far away as New York.

                      The long testing turnaround times are making it impossible for America to replicate the central strategy used by other countries to effectively contain the virus — test, trace and isolate. Like catching any killer, speed is of the essence when it comes to the coronavirus.
                      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                      • Northwestcoug
                        Cocked and Loaded
                        • May 2011
                        • 17948

                        #4256
                        Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                        I'm the guy who extols the Canadian health care system here, warts and all. But the fact that we are screwing up nationwide testing for COVID-19 when other countries have figured it out honestly makes me despondent. There are multiple other failures of government and health care system that the pandemic has laid bare. But we can't even test properly, even after half a year of dealing with this. I can't even comprehend how big a failure this is for the supposed best health care system in the world. I mean, really?!? What good is freedom in our system if we can't properly test for a pandemic?

                        I know I'm not going to convert many to the rest of the developed world and accept a more socialized version of health care. But this is just so embarrassing. Does anyone think that if the government had a more centralized role in health care, that they would do worse than we are at testing? Assuming of course, that we had a competent government? Hell, even dream boy Trudeau is more competent at this than we are.

                        This is all just so disappointing. It really feels like the beginning of the end of American exceptionalism. Yeah I know it sounds hyperbolic. But I'm exhausted after 6 months of fiasco after fiasco.
                        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                        - SeattleUte

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                        • myboynoah
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 21719

                          #4257
                          Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                          I'm the guy who extols the Canadian health care system here, warts and all. But the fact that we are screwing up nationwide testing for COVID-19 when other countries have figured it out honestly makes me despondent. There are multiple other failures of government and health care system that the pandemic has laid bare. But we can't even test properly, even after half a year of dealing with this. I can't even comprehend how big a failure this is for the supposed best health care system in the world. I mean, really?!? What good is freedom in our system if we can't properly test for a pandemic?

                          I know I'm not going to convert many to the rest of the developed world and accept a more socialized version of health care. But this is just so embarrassing. Does anyone think that if the government had a more centralized role in health care, that they would do worse than we are at testing? Assuming of course, that we had a competent government? Hell, even dream boy Trudeau is more competent at this than we are.

                          This is all just so disappointing. It really feels like the beginning of the end of American exceptionalism. Yeah I know it sounds hyperbolic. But I'm exhausted after 6 months of fiasco after fiasco.
                          I hear you. Gallows humor can only go so far when meeting with those from foreign countries. It's just plain embarrassing now.

                          To be at this point after all we've gone through is abhorrent. I simply can't believe it. I have no doubt that even under a more centralized healthcare system, djt would have screwed this pooch just as "bigly."

                          Fuck, fuck, fuck, and fuck.

                          We'll hit 140,000 deaths this week and 200,000 by October or November, laying waste to an economy along the way.
                          Last edited by myboynoah; 07-12-2020, 04:45 PM.
                          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                          • Commando
                            Explosivo
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 20748

                            #4258
                            Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                            I don't understand why they let people do their own swab. Seems like a useless effort.
                            I don't know how you screw it up. If you are positive, you are shedding millions of viruses and your nasal passage has to be lousy with them. Just get some snot on that swab and you're good.
                            "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                            • Commando
                              Explosivo
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 20748

                              #4259
                              Welp...


                              "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                              • falafel
                                loves to talk on things
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 37906

                                #4260
                                Originally posted by Commando View Post
                                Again?
                                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                                Dig your own grave, and save!

                                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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