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  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

    Yeah, the post is hyperbolic. But forget the media for a minute. Why aren't the pro-palestine folks mobilizing for the Iranian protestors? Maybe it is just too early in the process, but I recall instant reaction following October 7.
    I'm not sure I see where you are coming from with that.

    What, besides Islam, do you see as a connection between Palestine and Iran?
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

    Dig your own grave, and save!

    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

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    • Originally posted by falafel View Post

      I'm not sure I see where you are coming from with that.

      What, besides Islam, do you see as a connection between Palestine and Iran?
      Hate for Israel and Jews?

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      • Originally posted by beefytee View Post

        Hate for Israel and Jews?
        But that is not the common animating thread between these issues. Palestine’s issues with Israel having nothing to do with Iranians issues with their government’s failures.

        i guess it seems like “both brown” seems equally as relevant to me (c’mon see the hyperbole everyone)
        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

        Dig your own grave, and save!

        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • Originally posted by falafel View Post

          I'm not sure I see where you are coming from with that.

          What, besides Islam, do you see as a connection between Palestine and Iran?
          Both cases feature an uprising of an allegedly oppressed people.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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          • I think that's a good question, JL. My simple opinion is that people who support Palestinians to the point that they justify Hamas-type attacks 1) really don't care about Iran or Iranian's struggle for basic human rights (they are one trick ponies or they have a hierarchy where Palestinian rights are paramount) and 2) Iran is really the only benefactor left for Hamas et al, so a regime change in Iran greatly threatens the future viability of the Palestinian movements they support.

            I do find it interesting that the mainstream media, and frankly, even the Trump Admin are not that focused on what is happening in Iran. Maybe they are and I'm missing it. I suspect this lack of focus comes from attention on other things closer to home (VeneSuela, ICE killing and harassing Americans, etc.), Maybe there is a thinking that we've seen this before in Iran in the past and it has settled back down (at least that's how I've been feeling), not a lot of expertise out there on Iran (how significant is a mass demonstration in Northern Iran?), a lot of disinformation out there (I saw a report that top Iranian leadership was fleeing the country, but that didn't seem to happen), and Iranian leadership is doing its best to shut down communications inside and outside the country. Granted, this seems more intense, but it's difficult to know where the tipping points are. I hope this is it and it tips. Iran could be an amazing political and economic story.
            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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            • People keep saying that the Iran situation isn’t getting main stream media attention. There are several things going on that are America related (ICE situation, Venezuela), and the American media has always had limited international exposure.

              But, I go to cnn.com and it is front page and I go to nytimes. com and it is front page.

              I don’t know that it is being handled any differently than other international protested and revolutions. Yes, Iran is a big deal and deserves attention. I think it is getting consistent attention with past events.

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              • A trend taking place in Iran is one that I believes the most epic burn to the Current regime and one I fear tremendously will be met with swift retribution.

                It is the trend of women smoking and lighting their cigarettes while they burn a photo of the Supreme Leader. The fact that each one of these offenses (Not wearing a head cover, smoking and are burning a photo of the Supremer Leader) would be cause them to be put to death shows a strong undercurrent of women in Iran protesting and a movement they did not expect. I find it powerful and the ultimate slam. But I pray they are never identified and freedom comes with the fall of the regime.



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                https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/why-...10564751/amp/1

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                  Both cases feature an uprising of an allegedly oppressed people.
                  The Pro-Palestinian folks were agitating for action that was within the Biden administrations power to achieve, at least in theory.
                  Iranians in the US wouldn't be protesting American actions as we already oppose that regime.

                  Additionally, some of the protestors over the Gaza stuff abducted off the streets and deported even though they were here legally

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                  • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                    The Pro-Palestinian folks were agitating for action that was within the Biden administrations power to achieve, at least in theory.
                    Iranians in the US wouldn't be protesting American actions as we already oppose that regime.

                    Additionally, some of the protestors over the Gaza stuff abducted off the streets and deported even though they were here legally
                    Additionally, no Iranian protestors have been raping and murdering innocent civilians and kidnapping mothers with babies.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                      Additionally, no Iranian protestors have been raping and murdering innocent civilians and kidnapping mothers with babies.
                      Let’s not forget the choking infant babies and stabbing them to death or shooting them.. Or starving the elderly and torturing them.

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                      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                        Additionally, no Iranian protestors have been raping and murdering innocent civilians and kidnapping mothers with babies.
                        I'm not aware of Palestinian protestors doing that either. Not sure that invalidates my point that minority communities might be hesitant to protest.

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                        • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                          I'm not aware of Palestinian protestors doing that either. Not sure that invalidates my point that minority communities might be hesitant to protest.
                          Pro-Palestinian protestors have been hesitant to protest? Come on.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                            Pro-Palestinian protestors have been hesitant to protest? Come on.
                            Good lord, I swear you just assume you will disagree with whatever I post before you read it.

                            I think you're reading my posts as they aren't meant to be. I mentioned that minorities might be hesitant to protest or demonstrate in part because of how the Pro-Palestinian protestors were treated.

                            And I meant I wasn't aware of protestors killing innocent people.

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                            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                              Both cases feature an uprising of an allegedly oppressed people.
                              Seems pretty broad. Where are the Venezuelans in this?
                              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                              Dig your own grave, and save!

                              "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                              "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Will Trump take action. This retired general believes so.. I am not sure any final warning should matter. I say, take action now. It is clear this regime is going to kill any protestors.


                                "The president has told them, ‘If you kill them, I’m coming for you,’" Keane said during an appearance on "Life, Liberty & Levin" on Saturday.

                                "They’ve already killed more than 40 people, and they’ve jailed many more. And in jail, they will execute them."

                                As nationwide anti-regime demonstrations across Iran hit the two-week mark, Keane argued that President Donald Trump should now follow through by issuing one last warning before targeting those responsible for maintaining an iron grip on the population.

                                "I think the president could give one more warning and then take down some of the leaders responsible for conducting violence against the Iranian population," Keane said.

                                Keane noted Trump's outspokenness on behalf of the Iranian people, calling him the first president to voice explicit support for protesters.

                                "This president has done that, and I think he will likely have to follow through on it," he added.

                                https://www.foxnews.com/media/retire...s-intervention

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