Impeaching Trump: Make America Sane Again

[Sullyute]

I also won’t be voting for Biden again. His handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal was evidence enough that he doesn’t have what it takes to be an executive. Covid is also raging through the US and he’s again several months late with any kind of prooosla or plan to stop it. He was a decent senator but he doesn’t have what it takes to be an executive.

i won’t vote for Harris. She’s an awful candidate that couldn’t even make the final half dozen democratic nominees. She locked up people in California like it was going out of style and has now become a hard left wokeist. No thanks.

im hoping the GOP can nominate someone that isn’t trump and that had some amount of centrist philosophy. There are plenty of them in the party but I’m afraid trumps stranglehold on the party will result in either him or one of his lackeys getting the nomination.

if it came down to Trump or Biden, I’d likely vote for the libertarian.

Don’t kid yourself, Trump will run again for the money, his ego, and to help postpone any legal action. Unless he is dead he will be running for president.

[frank ryan]

Don’t kid yourself, Trump will run again for the money, his ego, and to help postpone any legal action. Unless he is dead he will be running for president.

Trump owns the GOP. He hasn’t gone away and the GOP is poisoned.

[BigFatMeanie]

Don’t kid yourself, Trump will run again for the money, his ego, and to help postpone any legal action. Unless he is dead he will be running for president.

This.

It's also why, for the third consecutive presidential election, I will likely not vote either Republican or Democrat but will "throw away" my vote on a third-party candidate while each of the two tribes blame me for being a part of the problem because I didn't vote for their tribe.

[LVAllen]

im hoping the GOP can nominate someone that isn’t trump and that had some amount of centrist philosophy. There are plenty of them in the party

Citation effing needed. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Illinois), which I would suggest is one of the better known non-crazy Republicans, is not a centrist, and he's not even that well known. The other larger names in the party are governors, and they went full-on for Trump and in most cases, have tried to out-Trump Trump. Who is the GOP going to nominate? Abbott? DeSantis? McConnell? Senators Collins or Murkowski? Mike Lee? Jeb Bush? Mitt Romney, the standard-bearer of GOP principles less than 10 years ago, has been cast aside by the Trump faction, and in any case has passed the torch of presidential politics.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Citation effing needed. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Illinois), which I would suggest is one of the better known non-crazy Republicans, is not a centrist, and he's not even that well known. The other larger names in the party are governors, and they went full-on for Trump and in most cases, have tried to out-Trump Trump. Who is the GOP going to nominate? Abbott? DeSantis? McConnell? Senators Collins or Murkowski? Mike Lee? Jeb Bush? Mitt Romney, the standard-bearer of GOP principles less than 10 years ago, has been cast aside by the Trump faction, and in any case has passed the torch of presidential politics.

I like Kinzinger.

Unless something changes drastically, none of the moderate/rational/ethical republicans has a chance. It is depressing.

[Moliere]

Citation effing needed. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Illinois), which I would suggest is one of the better known non-crazy Republicans, is not a centrist, and he's not even that well known. The other larger names in the party are governors, and they went full-on for Trump and in most cases, have tried to out-Trump Trump. Who is the GOP going to nominate? Abbott? DeSantis? McConnell? Senators Collins or Murkowski? Mike Lee? Jeb Bush? Mitt Romney, the standard-bearer of GOP principles less than 10 years ago, has been cast aside by the Trump faction, and in any case has passed the torch of presidential politics.

I said I hoped, I don’t expect it. I fully expect trump or someone like him to win the nomination. I also fully expect to vote for the same person as uncle Ted.

[Commando]

I also won’t be voting for Biden again. His handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal was evidence enough that he doesn’t have what it takes to be an executive. Covid is also raging through the US and he’s again several months late with any kind of prooosla or plan to stop it. He was a decent senator but he doesn’t have what it takes to be an executive.

i won’t vote for Harris. She’s an awful candidate that couldn’t even make the final half dozen democratic nominees. She locked up people in California like it was going out of style and has now become a hard left wokeist. No thanks.

im hoping the GOP can nominate someone that isn’t trump and that had some amount of centrist philosophy. There are plenty of them in the party but I’m afraid trumps stranglehold on the party will result in either him or one of his lackeys getting the nomination.

if it came down to Trump or Biden, I’d likely vote for the libertarian.

lol I'm not convinced Biden 'doesn't have what it takes to be an executive' due to problems that he's inherited that he didn't punt on. I don't agree with him on a lot of things and am pissed about others, but he is just fine as a leader--- at least a million times more than Trump-- a functionally illiterate degenerate who only ran for president to appease his ego and level up his grift. And he's still at it. At least Biden doesn't possess a naked lust for power and seems to be some kind of empathetic human. I doubt the GOP can run somebody who isn't Trump-lite. I'm pretty sure the GOP is dead and greed killed it. I can't say Trump did it-- I'd more say the instinct to put power above patriotism did.

[Bo Diddley]

I'm a moderate guy, but I'll vote more left in reaction to the train wreck of the GOP and Trump.

[Moliere]

Citation effing needed. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Illinois), which I would suggest is one of the better known non-crazy Republicans, is not a centrist, and he's not even that well known. The other larger names in the party are governors, and they went full-on for Trump and in most cases, have tried to out-Trump Trump. Who is the GOP going to nominate? Abbott? DeSantis? McConnell? Senators Collins or Murkowski? Mike Lee? Jeb Bush? Mitt Romney, the standard-bearer of GOP principles less than 10 years ago, has been cast aside by the Trump faction, and in any case has passed the torch of presidential politics.

I don’t think all of them went all in for trump. Governor Cox gets blasted for supporting trump but he’s also very reasonable and more centrist. I’m not saying he’s going to run but there are some like that.

not all of trumps policies were horrible. In fact, I support some of them, especially his tax reforms. I just don’t want to deal with his misogyny, xenophobia and racism. But you can support some of his policies and not support those things. I mean, trump did sign criminal justice reform, right. That’s a good thing.

[Bo Diddley]

lol I'm not convinced Biden 'doesn't have what it takes to be an executive' due to problems that he's inherited that he didn't punt on. I don't agree with him on a lot of things and am pissed about others, but he is just fine as a leader--- at least a million times more than Trump-- a functionally illiterate degenerate who only ran for president to appease his ego and level up his grift. And he's still at it.

[Eddie]

I find it ironic that some Republicans on here want to make liberals responsible for the election of emperor Trump. That's some fragilized snowfakery territory there. No one made the GOP nominate and support such a shitty and amoral person for POTUS. The fault of electing Trump lies primarily with those who voted for him. There were other conservative options.

Smug and snobby liberals are not an excuse for voting for Trump. Talk about a lack of accountability. It's clear that voting for Trump again in 2024 would be a clear vote for racism and xenophobia.

Since you say you're responding to me - I guess I can answer the accusations above.

I don't want to make liberals responsible for the election of Trump. I do believe the current political climate - which is focused on elections and election cycles and an apparent belief that winning elections is more important than actually legislating and means politicians feel they have to demonize every and anyone on the other side of the aisle - is responsible for the election of Trump.

I'd love to have an election based on issues and a government that is working to find common ground. Our last three presidents (Obama, Trump, and now Biden) have all said they were going to work for unity to bring America together during their campaigns. Bullshit. Liars, all of them.

Both sides do it - I've NEVER said one is innocent. That's all on you - pointing fingers at the other side while ignoring what yours is doing. I've called the "conservatives" and GOP wrong-headed and morons plenty of times. All I'm saying is if we turn every behavior into bad moral behavior - like Mitt putting a dog kennel on the roof of his car and having "binders of women" - then we reach a point that no one cares about the real moral issues - like Trump's business and porn star dealings.

Your continued insistence that anyone who would pick Trump over another candidate only does so due to racism and xenophobia just means you've got your smug and snobby head in the sand and are completely incapable of understanding the concerns conservative people have with the Dem platform. As much as I dislike Trump and don't miss him - I can at least understand how people would prefer some of his policy to that of Biden. Part of the problem is an unwillingness (on both sides) to listen in an effort to understand and find common ground rather than with the intent to respond and tell everyone how shitty the other person and their ideas are.

Trump is a horrible human being and I'm glad he's gone. At the same time, Biden is a dumbass who is not making things better for our country.

As others have said - I'm hopeful that we (and our respective parties) do a better job of giving the American public good candidates in 3 years. I certainly hope that doesn't include Trump - or Biden either, for that matter. The Book of Mormon essentially says that in a democracy we get the elected officials we deserve. I get that the blame is on us, as a whole - and that means me and you. Even if we didn't vote for Trump.

[Northwestcoug]

The GOP nominee in 2024 will be one of two people: Trump or Trump Jr., in the form of DeSantis. Most likely Trump, but Jr. will govern just the same as his namesake.

[fusnik]

lol I'm not convinced Biden 'doesn't have what it takes to be an executive' due to problems that he's inherited that he didn't punt on. I don't agree with him on a lot of things and am pissed about others, but he is just fine as a leader--- at least a million times more than Trump-- a functionally illiterate degenerate who only ran for president to appease his ego and level up his grift. And he's still at it. At least Biden doesn't possess a naked lust for power and seems to be some kind of empathetic human. I doubt the GOP can run somebody who isn't Trump-lite. I'm pretty sure the GOP is dead and greed killed it. I can't say Trump did it-- I'd more say the instinct to put power above patriotism did.

These posts just highlight how unserious serious people are.

People really blame this recent Covid wave on Biden? It’s centralized in FL, TX, KY, AL, MS, TN, and GA amongst primarily non vaccinated Trump supporters.

The false outrage about Afghanistan is another example.

Trump backed the US into a corner gave the country away to terrorists and when POTUS finally does what the majority of us wanted they’ll parade the 13 lost. It’s gross.

The conservative movement over the last 50 years can be summed up as a party constantly looking for an enemy and Obama was the perfect foil to turn that foreign search on to fellow citizens.

When you view your fellow Americans as enemies it’s easy to vote for the clown parade of DeSantis, Abbott, MTG, Crenshaw, Paul, McCarthy, Gosar, Scalise, etc.

[falafel]

Seriously, that's a bit rude. I don't post much on here these days. Anyway, my remark was directed at Eddie, who blamed liberals for Trump.

Trump is far worse than anyone else we've seen and it ain't close

I didn't intend it to be rude, so I apologize for any offense. But you can't deny that you don't exactly see straight on these issues.

[falafel]

lol I'm not convinced Biden 'doesn't have what it takes to be an executive' due to problems that he's inherited that he didn't punt on. I don't agree with him on a lot of things and am pissed about others, but he is just fine as a leader--- at least a million times more than Trump-- a functionally illiterate degenerate who only ran for president to appease his ego and level up his grift. And he's still at it. At least Biden doesn't possess a naked lust for power and seems to be some kind of empathetic human. I doubt the GOP can run somebody who isn't Trump-lite. I'm pretty sure the GOP is dead and greed killed it. I can't say Trump did it-- I'd more say the instinct to put power above patriotism did.

Trump is bad, but Biden has been very not good on a lot of issues. Decent on some though. I'm not sure what more he could be doing on the pandemic. Plenty of vaccine available, people just won't take it. Does just about all he can do legally (and it may not be legal) by mandating the vaccine for federal employees and companies with 100+ workers. I wonder what more could he do at this point?