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  • Originally posted by USUC View Post
    So far I like what the House Managers are arguing, lets hope they stick to the obvious and that they don't go down a needlessly partisan path. I really do think it is a big mistake to have only Democrats present this case. Pelosi should have appointed at least one Republican. This is an important process. It doesn't matter that they won't get a conviction. What matters is presenting the facts so no right thinking person knows in their heart what happened. Partisanship may prevent them from admitting it. But for saneness to move forward, the GOP base must know the truth and be embarrassed to continue to spew the talking points.
    It's hard to imagine many Republicans willing to take that risk, Maybe one of the 10 who voted to impeach would have, but they're all already taking a lot of crap from their districts and the rest of the party. Guaranteed the Impeachment managers aren't trying to exclude conservative voices to help the cause. They cited several in their arguments.
    Last edited by BlueK; 02-09-2021, 12:19 PM.

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    • Geez, Trump's lawyer's arguments are irrelevant and absurd.

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      • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
        Geez, Trump's lawyer's arguments are irrelevant and absurd.
        Yip. Just shut it off because it was repetitive, uninformative, and annoying.
        "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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        • This guy is making terrible arguments. But in fairness, he has to argue the hand he has been dealt. Sadly, the jury doesn't care what he says.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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          • Good hell, this guy (Schoen) is even worse. And more shameless.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              This guy is making terrible arguments. But in fairness, he has to argue the hand he has been dealt. Sadly, the jury doesn't care what he says.
              Agreed. A puppet show would have been just as effective and more entertaining.
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              • So McConnell votes that the proceedings are not constitutional bc they are too late... and the reason they are doing them now is bc he adjourned the Senate until after the inauguration? No- that makes total sense....
                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                • In the end, the house managers convinced one more republican.

                  He's gonna be acquitted no matter what. The senate still needs to do this, but if this gets drawn out public opinion will soon turn against the democrats.
                  "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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                  • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                    In the end, the house managers convinced one more republican.

                    He's gonna be acquitted no matter what. The senate still needs to do this, but if this gets drawn out public opinion will soon turn against the democrats.
                    How do you think it would be drawn out? I rather think public opinion favors ditching Trump, too...
                    "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                    • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                      So McConnell votes that the proceedings are not constitutional bc they are too late... and the reason they are doing them now is bc he adjourned the Senate until after the inauguration? No- that makes total sense....
                      Those are the political games he plays.

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                      • Originally posted by Commando View Post

                        How do you think it would be drawn out? I rather think public opinion favors ditching Trump, too...
                        Once they become convinced that acquittal is assured, they will see it as wasted time. Trump fatigue will set in. I don't think it will cost the democrats politically in the end, but they will want an end to the process if no other GOP members will be swayed to impeach.
                        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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                        • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                          Once they become convinced that acquittal is assured, they will see it as wasted time. Trump fatigue will set in. I don't think it will cost the democrats politically in the end, but they will want an end to the process if no other GOP members will be swayed to impeach.
                          I think they designed it to not take very long.

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                          • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                            I think they designed it to not take very long.
                            I think so too. Which I fault the democrats for. If you're gonna impeach, do it right. Call the witnesses and make the case.
                            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
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                            • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                              I think so too. Which I fault the democrats for. If you're gonna impeach, do it right. Call the witnesses and make the case.
                              The case has been made, lines are drawn, minds are set. Get it over with.

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                              • A little late to this party, but these House managers are light years better than the managers for the first impeachment so far. Haven't listened to Trump's arguments yet (but I've heard they were terrible). Anyone who voted against the constitutionality of these proceedings is violating their oath of office. This is clearly an appropriate, and necessary, proceeding.

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