President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[Moliere]

Sure, let's make a ballroom and make it part of the White House and let's make it bigger and more expensive than the White House, and let's use this time right now to push for it.

Its the TIMING of the push. Someone makes an attempt at the President's life, and one of his earliest actions is the push the ballroom that is currently bogged down. Seems like even HE isn't taking this seriously, except to try and extract more and more for himself.

Sorry, I should have led with the long paragraph explaining that I think the timing of Trump pushing for the ballroom is really bad optics. Please take my prior response not as me condoning his timing.

The opposition to the ballroom (prior to this incident and also once the requisite time has passed after this incident) is just weird.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I have seen similar polls among conservative youths. I wouldn't be surprised if the youth in general were more okay with violence (any type) than their elders.

That poll includes conservative youth.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Sorry, I should have led with the long paragraph explaining that I think the timing of Trump pushing for the ballroom is really bad optics. Please take my prior response not as me condoning his timing.

The opposition to the ballroom (prior to this incident and also once the requisite time has passed after this incident) is just weird.

I don't oppose a ballroom at all, but I oppose the Trump Ballroom and not just because of the obviously poor timing. The design reflects Trump's tastes, which are execrable--jejeune and grandiose, aesthetically and dimensionally conflicting with one of the world's most distinctive and recognizable buildings. Consistent with Trump's approach to business, he has flouted the proper approval process and disregards the input and oversight of architecture and history experts. As with any building, he sees it as a monument to himself, a monument that would be twice the size off the White House and more than four times the size of the Parthenon. I wonder if he'll put a lot of gold filigree throughout the interior.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Probably not the correct thread for this, but last night's 60 Minutes interview with Ben Sasse, while excellent, made me very sad. Imagine if McConnell and nine other GOP Senators had had spinal implants and voted to convict Trump in 2021. The nation would be so much better off with someone with Ben Sasse's character at the helm today.

[Northwestcoug]

I don't oppose a ballroom at all, but I oppose the Trump Ballroom and not just because of the obviously poor timing. The design reflects Trump's tastes, which are execrable--jejeune and grandiose, aesthetically and dimensionally conflicting with one of the world's most distinctive and recognizable buildings. Consistent with Trump's approach to business, he has flouted the proper approval process and disregards the input and oversight of architecture and history experts. As with any building, he sees it as a monument to himself, a monument that would be twice the size off the White House and more than four times the size of the Parthenon. I wonder if he'll put a lot of gold filigree throughout the interior.

I don't think you have to worry. He probably depleted the world's supply on the oval office.

[LVAllen]

Lunatic left is every bit as substantial. Young liberals have lost their minds.

I mean... we're coming up on the 250th anniversary party of using violence to achieve political goals.... "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.." and when the old Government resists, there will assuredly be violence.

I'm not saying violence is justified at this point. But if the right of the people to alter their government is effectively eliminated through hijinks and shenanigans, and the government still persists in being destructive in the securing of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, violence is all but assured. It is only through the American public's confidence in their ability to change their government that violence is avoided.

[BigFatMeanie]

Disclaimer: I don't like Kimmel, don't watch his show, don't like his politics, and think he's generally an idiot.

Kimmel's joke about Melania/Donald, while being crass, doesn't strike me as "a call to violence" or as "violent rhetoric" like the POTUS and FLOTUS are now whining about and calling for him to be cancelled/fired.

Also, anti-government violence from the left has now eclipsed violence from the right, according to the WSJ, citing the Center for Strategic and International Studies data:

In fact, domestic attacks and plots against the U.S. government are at their highest levels since at least 1994, according to data from the Center for Strategic and International Studies. For the first time in 20 years, they are coming from extremists on the left in greater numbers than the right, the center’s data shows. Of the 20 attacks and plots recorded in 2025, the center categorized 10 as originating from the extreme left and eight as coming from the extreme right.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/...hare_permalink

And before you discount the analysis of the CSIS as partisan and biased, even Wikipedia classifies them as bipartisan and "centrist".

[Jeff Lebowski]

I mean... we're coming up on the 250th anniversary party of using violence to achieve political goals.... "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.." and when the old Government resists, there will assuredly be violence.

I'm not saying violence is justified at this point. But if the right of the people to alter their government is effectively eliminated through hijinks and shenanigans, and the government still persists in being destructive in the securing of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, violence is all but assured. It is only through the American public's confidence in their ability to change their government that violence is avoided.

See how easy this is to rationalize?

[LVAllen]

See how easy this is to rationalize?

Again, Dude, we are literally going to be celebrating the 250th anniversary of using violence to achieve political ends. So to say it is never acceptable is foolish, unless you believe that human nature has changed and there are no such things as tyrants anymore. Or in case you are the one benefiting from the status quo.

Maybe the people being polled considered that nuance. Maybe they had something else in mind. I don't know, which is why I view the poll as dumb.

[Moliere]

I don't oppose a ballroom at all, but I oppose the Trump Ballroom and not just because of the obviously poor timing. The design reflects Trump's tastes, which are execrable--jejeune and grandiose, aesthetically and dimensionally conflicting with one of the world's most distinctive and recognizable buildings. Consistent with Trump's approach to business, he has flouted the proper approval process and disregards the input and oversight of architecture and history experts. As with any building, he sees it as a monument to himself, a monument that would be twice the size off the White House and more than four times the size of the Parthenon. I wonder if he'll put a lot of gold filigree throughout the interior.

I guess I envision the next democrat president just renaming it to something like the Bill Clinton ballroom and then we all just move on

[Moliere]

Probably not the correct thread for this, but last night's 60 Minutes interview with Ben Sasse, while excellent, made me very sad. Imagine if McConnell and nine other GOP Senators had had spinal implants and voted to convict Trump in 2021. The nation would be so much better off with someone with Ben Sasse's character at the helm today.

I’ve listened to several Ben Sasse interviews and they have been great. Everyone should watch them. I won’t go into details and it’s nothing to do with me personally, but they have also been sobering and have caused a lot of self reflection, something I’ve already been doing a lot of over the past two years.

I particularly found his statement that he wishes he’d have kept the sabbath day more holy. I found that deep and troubling in a world bound by titles, money and consumerism.

[wally]

Lunatic left is every bit as substantial. Young liberals have lost their minds.

This is a great graphic because it aligns with my opinions. Thanks for posting!

[Shaka]

I still don’t get the uproar over the ballroom. Why shouldn’t we build one? The White House needs to be upgraded and it’s not like political fairs aren’t for sale in DC. At least the donors were mostly publicly disclosed.

The ballroom is much needed and shouldn't have been an issue in the first place. Anyone who has attended a White House event in a tent can tell you that.

[Shaka]

I guess I envision the next democrat president just renaming it to something like the Bill Clinton ballroom and then we all just move on

If they reall wanted to get the right's goat they would rename it Gulf of Mexico Ballroom.

[PaloAltoCougar]

The ballroom is much needed and shouldn't have been an issue in the first place. Anyone who has attended a White House event in a tent can tell you that.

That's true for a lot of stuff Trump does. It's the methods he employs to accomplish them that are objectionable and divisive. The issue was created by Trump. A more thoughtful leader could have done this easily, but we don't have one.