President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[myboynoah]

I had to look up that definition. "a political approach that favors free-market capitalism, deregulation, and reduction in government spending". That...sounds a lot more like conservative people around here than Frank.

lol

I didn't change. What changed was my label.

[frank ryan]

Wait, Frank is neoliberal?

. I guess there are some conservatives philosophies I do support. I'm very in favor of free trade, I'm not extreme in terms my thoughts on gun control.

I definitely support regulations than most on here.

[frank ryan]

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Jonah gets it

[myboynoah]

I've seen this articulated online. Jimmy Kimmel and the other late night hosts are all losing money for the networks. Most people are not tuning in to watch them; they'll catch clips online. So the smart move would be to let the network kill a show on the pretext of a host being offensive, saving some money and keeping in good graces with Trump. And Trump could even gloat about it, and MAGA world would clap and approve. Trump is still authoritarian/fascist-light but that's already well-known; most just ignore him now. But the rest of the administration couldn't help themselves. They had to publicly threaten a network and then gloat about it when it capitulated. They've amplified what is obviously a first amendment issue, likely alarming most independents. But they couldn't help themselves. They had to rub ABC's face in it.

If that is the calculus, they are a very naive bunch. Trump is just testing the waters with Colbert and Kimmel. If it goes well (the media continues to roll over), then expect more pressure and extortion. He's already telegraphing next moves. They ignore him at their own (and our own) risk.

[BigFatMeanie]

The common secondary definition of the term violence is "strength of emotion." An individual such as a spouse or child who is on the receiving end of verbal violence experiences trauma equal to a physical blow. The psychological Damage can be life-altering—it can stunt brain development and result in PTSD.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...-sexual-abuse/

Verbal beatings hurt as much as sexual abuse

"As yet unpublished research by Teicher shows that, indeed, exposure to verbal abuse does affect certain areas of the brain. These areas are associated with changes in verbal IQ and symptoms of depression, dissociation, and anxiety."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK223755/

"Dr. Teicher remarked that one of the most striking aspects of these ongoing studies is the impact of verbal abuse. Exposure to verbal aggression was quantified using a 15-item verbal abuse scale. Verbal Abuse Scores (VAS) greater than 40 were associated with elevated LSCL-33 and Dissociative Experiences Scale (DES) scores. The higher the VAS score, the higher were symptoms of depression, limbic irritability, and dissociation. This was found in subjects who had not experienced any other form of abuse, nor witnessed domestic violence."

Words can be an act of violence.

Disagree. You and I use the English language differently.

[Jeff Lebowski]

The common secondary definition of the term violence is "strength of emotion." An individual such as a spouse or child who is on the receiving end of verbal violence experiences trauma equal to a physical blow. The psychological Damage can be life-altering—it can stunt brain development and result in PTSD.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...-sexual-abuse/

Verbal beatings hurt as much as sexual abuse

"As yet unpublished research by Teicher shows that, indeed, exposure to verbal abuse does affect certain areas of the brain. These areas are associated with changes in verbal IQ and symptoms of depression, dissociation, and anxiety."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK223755/

"Dr. Teicher remarked that one of the most striking aspects of these ongoing studies is the impact of verbal abuse. Exposure to verbal aggression was quantified using a 15-item verbal abuse scale. Verbal Abuse Scores (VAS) greater than 40 were associated with elevated LSCL-33 and Dissociative Experiences Scale (DES) scores. The higher the VAS score, the higher were symptoms of depression, limbic irritability, and dissociation. This was found in subjects who had not experienced any other form of abuse, nor witnessed domestic violence."

Words can be an act of violence.

Come on. Words can be verbal abuse and very wrong. They are not violence.

[wally]

Come on. Words can be verbal abuse and very wrong. They are not violence.

LOL! Hard agree. Do we extend "stand your ground laws" to "verbal violence?" If someone calls me a "fascist" or a "communist" can I shoot to kill?

[USUC]

. I guess there are some conservatives philosophies I do support. I'm very in favor of free trade, I'm not extreme in terms my thoughts on gun control.

I definitely support regulations than most on here.

My understanding of a neoliberal is an economic libertarian with progressive social views. Usually "neoliberal" is thrown around as a pejorative by the DSA types. Just thought it was funny.

[Shaka]

LOL! Hard agree. Do we extend "stand your ground laws" to "verbal violence?" If someone calls me a "fascist" or a "communist" can I shoot to kill?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Emoji violence!

[wally]

The common secondary definition of the term violence is "strength of emotion." An individual such as a spouse or child who is on the receiving end of verbal violence experiences trauma equal to a physical blow. The psychological Damage can be life-altering—it can stunt brain development and result in PTSD.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...-sexual-abuse/

Verbal beatings hurt as much as sexual abuse

"As yet unpublished research by Teicher shows that, indeed, exposure to verbal abuse does affect certain areas of the brain. These areas are associated with changes in verbal IQ and symptoms of depression, dissociation, and anxiety."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK223755/

"Dr. Teicher remarked that one of the most striking aspects of these ongoing studies is the impact of verbal abuse. Exposure to verbal aggression was quantified using a 15-item verbal abuse scale. Verbal Abuse Scores (VAS) greater than 40 were associated with elevated LSCL-33 and Dissociative Experiences Scale (DES) scores. The higher the VAS score, the higher were symptoms of depression, limbic irritability, and dissociation. This was found in subjects who had not experienced any other form of abuse, nor witnessed domestic violence."

Words can be an act of violence.

I feel threatened and unsafe by assertions in this study... where is my gun? Come to think of it, you guys are very demeaning and borderline abusive to Utah fans such as myself. I am calling the FBI instead.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I feel threatened and unsafe by assertions in this study... where is my gun? Come to think of it, you guys are very demeaning and borderline abusive to Utah fans such as myself. I am calling the FBI instead.

Guns kill people. Diseases also kill people. Therefore diseases are guns.

Same logic.

[wally]

Guns kill people. Diseases also kill people. Therefore diseases are guns.

Same logic.

that is super deep, bro. Never thought of it that way before.

[frank ryan]

As someone who has spent the last decade working with countless people who struggled with trauma, tooblue isn't wrong.

It's often the words that linger and haunt abuse victims more than anything else.

With sexual assault; the response, or lack of one can also be retraumatizing in way that overrides the original attack in intentions trauma.

A child tells their mom or dad they were molested or raped, and when they are told it is their fault or are ignored, that humiliation, invalidation and betrayal hits them harder than the original abuse.

Words aren't physical violence but the concept of violent language is valid. Calls for violence and intentionally betraying or humiliating someone fits that category.

[tooblue]

Come on. Words can be verbal abuse and very wrong. They are not violence.

The science says otherwise.