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  • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

    Do you know what op Ed that was? I saw one in the WSJ but it was behind a paywall. The first paragraph was innocent enough.
    https://www.georgesoros.com/2022/07/...m-prosecutors/

    For the record, I am pro criminal justice reform (i think violent crime, including gun crime, should be prosecuted aggressively though). I dont have a problem with Soros, an American citizen, spending money on causes he supports. I dont think he is some bogeyman hell bent on the destruction of America.

    But I don't like language policing that intends to shut down criticism. A lot of these prosecutors are backed by money donated from Soros and align with his political goals. It's not antisemitic even if it is as lazy as "Koch funded."

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    • Originally posted by USUC View Post

      https://www.georgesoros.com/2022/07/...m-prosecutors/

      For the record, I am pro criminal justice reform (i think violent crime, including gun crime, should be prosecuted aggressively though). I dont have a problem with Soros, an American citizen, spending money on causes he supports. I dont think he is some bogeyman hell bent on the destruction of America.

      But I don't like language policing that intends to shut down criticism. A lot of these prosecutors are backed by money donated from Soros and align with his political goals. It's not antisemitic even if it is as lazy as "Koch funded."
      I tend to agree with you. I think the vast majority of Soros criticism from the right is crazy conspiracy stuff. A lot of it isn’t anti semitic. Some of it is though.
      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
      - SeattleUte

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      • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

        I tend to agree with you. I think the vast majority of Soros criticism from the right is crazy conspiracy stuff. A lot of it isn’t anti semitic. Some of it is though.
        Vast majority is crazy conspiracy stuff, but a lot of it isn’t anti semitic?

        WTF are you even saying?

        It’s conspiratorial because he’s a Jewish money changer end of story. You can’t have one without the other.

        It’s effective and acceptable because apparently smart people defend this craziness. DeSantis invokes his name frequently because he can dog whistle to the Christian right with the antisemitism while simultaneously feign ignorance to the USUCs of the world who will defend this crap.

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        • Originally posted by fusnik View Post

          Vast majority is crazy conspiracy stuff, but a lot of it isn’t anti semitic?

          WTF are you even saying?

          It’s conspiratorial because he’s a Jewish money changer end of story. You can’t have one without the other.

          It’s effective and acceptable because apparently smart people defend this craziness. DeSantis invokes his name frequently because he can dog whistle to the Christian right with the antisemitism while simultaneously feign ignorance to the USUCs of the world who will defend this crap.
          Where have I defended it? I believe I've called it lazy more than once.

          I don't understand the progressive desire to invent a controversy/scandal when there are plenty of obvious and real examples of immorality and corruption with these guys. Seems counterproductive.

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          • Originally posted by USUC View Post

            Where have I defended it? I believe I've called it lazy more than once.

            I don't understand the progressive desire to invent a controversy/scandal when there are plenty of obvious and real examples of immorality and corruption with these guys. Seems counterproductive.
            Apparently, you aren’t sufficiently pure.

            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • Originally posted by fusnik View Post

              Vast majority is crazy conspiracy stuff, but a lot of it isn’t anti semitic?

              WTF are you even saying?

              It’s conspiratorial because he’s a Jewish money changer end of story. You can’t have one without the other.

              It’s effective and acceptable because apparently smart people defend this craziness. DeSantis invokes his name frequently because he can dog whistle to the Christian right with the antisemitism while simultaneously feign ignorance to the USUCs of the world who will defend this crap.
              If I say you’re right and I can’t believe what I was saying, can we just stop with your typical micro-parsing of arguments with people who by and large agree with you?
              "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
              "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
              - SeattleUte

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              • Originally posted by USUC View Post

                Painting with a broad brush here. Are the musings of anonymous people on social media tantamount to Desantis or Rubio? Can you give me a specific instance where DeSantis said Soros was a Nazi sympathezer? Deaantis is bad in his own right, there is no need to pin stuff like this to him.
                You're making the assumption that DeSantis isn't running to be the leader of a party increasingly extreme. He doesn't have to call him a Nazi for it to be a dog whistle, that's the point of a dog whistle.

                There's really no other point to bring him up.

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                • desantis, if he even runs, will quickly release he cant win over trumpers and tries to get to be his VP

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                  • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                    desantis, if he even runs, will quickly release he cant win over trumpers and tries to get to be his VP
                    I hope he picks MTG.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                      I hope he picks MTG.
                      Yes, or Kari Lake. But for Lake’s gubernatorial loss (though he may buy her claim the election was stolen), he’d pick her as she’s better looking than MTG.

                      After solemn reflection, I hope Trump picks his spiritual adviser, Paula White. I hadn't seen this video in a couple of years but it still makes me happy,



                      Last edited by PaloAltoCougar; 04-02-2023, 05:08 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                        desantis, if he even runs, will quickly release he cant win over trumpers and tries to get to be his VP
                        Running mates from the same state? They should go with that strategy for sure.

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                        • Originally posted by originalsocal View Post

                          Running mates from the same state? They should go with that strategy for sure.
                          Surely two people who claim to love the Constitution won't have any issue with that. I'm quite certain the competent people they surround themselves with won't be able to identify any issue with it either.

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                          • Trump bragging about how well he gets along with Putin. And makes a prediction about his buddy.

                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              Trump bragging about how well he gets along with Putin. And makes a prediction about his buddy.

                              It is pretty sad to me that people are unaware of how Putin owned Trump and how he turned Trump into his useful idiot. Our national security has been damaged to badly

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                              • How weird that Trump can think he can 'get along great' with all these autocrats. Like Kim Jong-Un gives 2 shits about Trump or respects him at all. Nor is he a person with whom you ought to try to curry favor. He just has zero idea about America's foreign policy objectives or how to reach them. All that ever interested him were soundbites for his own choir.
                                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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