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  • myboynoah
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 21719

    #4441
    Originally posted by Commando View Post
    Yes. And now they're proposing to issue these employment visas according to criteria not specified/requested by the employers and that will serve to stem brown immigration. Imagine you want to bring in your employee of choice and the government denies your application b/c he doesn't meet the English criteria. Again- why does the government have a right to veto whom you choose to hire based on things that don't matter/ are not issues of national security? This is not about vetting terrorists. It's about Making America White Again. And this is under the guise that this will help American businesses? GTFOH.
    Are you sure that's how it works? If you want to hire someone (whether they speak English or not), then go through the process for an H1B1 visa for your potential employee. I don't think these newly proposed changes would affect that.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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    • Commando
      Explosivo
      • Feb 2009
      • 20748

      #4442
      Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
      Are you sure that's how it works? If you want to hire someone (whether they speak English or not), then go through the process for an H1B1 visa for your potential employee. I don't think these newly proposed changes would affect that.
      Yes, I am, dude. 'H1B1' is only one narrow variant, first of all, and this process is precisely what it would affect. Cutting total immigrant visas in half and switching to a 'merit-based' system.
      Last edited by Commando; 08-07-2017, 06:27 AM.
      "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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      • myboynoah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 21719

        #4443
        Originally posted by Commando View Post
        Yes, I am, dude. 'H1B1' is only one narrow variant, first of all, and this process is precisely what it would affect. Cutting total immigrant visas in half and switching to a 'merit-based' system.
        Frankly you're wrong. This new Raise Act covers green cards. H1B1 visas are temporary worker visas, not green cards. There is nothing in the current proposal that covers those visas. If "you want to bring in your employee of choice" no matter whether or not she/he speaks English, you can apply for H1B1 and it won't be affected by the new proposal.
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • Commando
          Explosivo
          • Feb 2009
          • 20748

          #4444
          Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
          Frankly you're wrong. This new Raise Act covers green cards. H1B1 visas are temporary worker visas, not green cards. There is nothing in the current proposal that covers those visas. If "you want to bring in your employee of choice" no matter whether or not she/he speaks English, you can apply for H1B1 and it won't be affected by the new proposal.
          So just bringing your 3500 from Singapore, then? H1B1s are just for non-immigrants from Singapore or Chile as far as I'm aware, and not immigrant visas to begin with, not eligible for adjustment of status, and there are only about 3500 available (I think). I guess businesses who want to temporarily hire Singaporeans or Chileans are in luck. I skimmed the Act and it doesn't seem to cover what Cotton and Trump were talking about, so I kind of doubt it's in its final iteration. I'll have to take another look.
          "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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          • Walter Sobchak
            Adventurer
            • Oct 2009
            • 3815

            #4445
            Originally posted by Commando View Post
            So just bringing your 3500 from Singapore, then? H1B1s are just for non-immigrants from Singapore or Chile as far as I'm aware, and not immigrant visas to begin with, not eligible for adjustment of status, and there are only about 3500 available (I think). I guess businesses who want to temporarily hire Singaporeans or Chileans are in luck. I skimmed the Act and it doesn't seem to cover what Cotton and Trump were talking about, so I kind of doubt it's in its final iteration. I'll have to take another look.
            I think half my neighbors are here on H1B1s. They are all from India or China and work at MSFT or AMZN.
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            • Walter Sobchak
              Adventurer
              • Oct 2009
              • 3815

              #4446
              Originally posted by BlueK View Post
              It's more than just Flake being willing to correct Trump when he's gone slightly astray. It's actually a very easy call for him because Flake is principled and he and Trump are essentially ideological opposites who currently find themselves in the same party somehow.

              Flake is a libertarian who trusts free markets and believes in individual rights. Flake would defend the first amendment to no end. Trump, yeah, not so much. Trump has made unseating Flake his #1 priority in next year's Senate races, even more than any democrat. There is a reason for that. The authoritarian populist nationalists Trump gets his current ideology from can't find anyone in the Senate they have less in common with, even in the other party.
              Poll: Flake’s approval rating in Arizona at 18 percent

              Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) has a job approval rating of only 18 percent in Arizona, according to a new poll.

              A survey from the left-leaning Public Policy Polling finds 62 percent of Arizona voters disapprove of the job the senator is doing. Another 19 percent are not sure.

              If the 2018 midterm election were held today, just 31 percent of respondents said they would support Flake's bid, compared to 47 percent who said they would support a generic Democratic opponent, according to the poll.

              [...]

              Flake — who in recent days has been making the rounds to promote his latest book — has been increasingly critical of President Trump in public.

              The Arizona Republican recently said in a piece for Politico that his party is in denial about the damage Trump is doing and called on his GOP colleagues to stand up to the president when they see his rhetoric has gone astray.
              You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
              Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

              Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
              You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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              • Commando
                Explosivo
                • Feb 2009
                • 20748

                #4447
                Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                I think half my neighbors are here on H1B1s. They are all from India or China and work at MSFT or AMZN.
                You probably mean H1B. That's the employer lottery where companies like Microsoft just bombard the DOS with thousands of applications, and take the numbers that come up.
                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                • BlueK
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 7134

                  #4448
                  If that's accurate it's a reflection of Arizona turning into a blue state.

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                  • Commando
                    Explosivo
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 20748

                    #4449
                    Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                    If that's accurate it's a reflection of Arizona turning into a blue state.
                    The Trump crazies aren't happy with him, but lately it seems like everybody has been in agreement that he's a good guy that tries to do the right thing. 18% seems low.
                    "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                    • Uncle Ted
                      The Big 12 money shot.
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 28853

                      #4450
                      Originally posted by Commando View Post
                      You probably mean H1B. That's the employer lottery where companies like Microsoft just bombard the DOS with thousands of applications, and take the numbers that come up.
                      I wonder when companies like Apple will just create huge remote offices in some other country and hire a crap load of engineers there. It is not like Apple doesn't have a bunch of money sitting offshore burning a hole in its pocket. It seems that would help solve their corporate tax dilemma and the need for H1B's.
                      Last edited by Uncle Ted; 08-07-2017, 08:24 PM.
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                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Commando
                        Explosivo
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 20748

                        #4451
                        Wonder how we stack up in the eyes of 45...

                        "Find Out if Trump Would Let You Immigrate To America"

                        "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                        • frank ryan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 12264

                          #4452
                          Originally posted by Commando View Post
                          Wonder how we stack up in the eyes of 45...

                          "Find Out if Trump Would Let You Immigrate To America"

                          http://time.com/4887574/trump-raise-act-immigration/
                          I doubt Melania would have made it.

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                          • falafel
                            loves to talk on things
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 37868

                            #4453
                            Originally posted by Commando View Post
                            Wonder how we stack up in the eyes of 45...

                            "Find Out if Trump Would Let You Immigrate To America"

                            http://time.com/4887574/trump-raise-act-immigration/
                            Nice, I'm in! Thank you Trump for this incredible opportunity!
                            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • frank ryan
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 12264

                              #4454
                              Originally posted by falafel View Post
                              Nice, I'm in! Thank you Trump for this incredible opportunity!
                              I didn't make it

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                              • Commando
                                Explosivo
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 20748

                                #4455
                                Saved by that olympic medal! phew!
                                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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