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  • Originally posted by BigPiney View Post

    I agree with this guy.
    Yeah, me too. I don't think we'll go too far down the road to Perdition.

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    • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

      God help us if democracy deniers don't get control of a branch of congress?

      a house or senate controlled by gop will deny the election

      What exactly was terrible from congress in last 2 years that you want people who dont accept the election running the house ?
      You guys seem incapable of nuance. Not all republicans are election deniers. Our nation is most healthy when we have two strong parties who are forced to compromise. My hope is that Trump continues to be neutered to the point that he loses his grip on the party and they ignore him. This is already starting to happen.

      If you don't see any danger in the democrats holding the WH and both the senate and the house, you are being naive.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

        You guys seem incapable of nuance. Not all republicans are election deniers. Our nation is most healthy when we have two strong parties who are forced to compromise. My hope is that Trump continues to be neutered to the point that he loses his grip on the party and they ignore him. This is already starting to happen.

        If you don't see any danger in the democrats holding the WH and both the senate and the house, you are being naive.
        The ones most likely to run for control over the election apparatus, and to be supported by MAGA election deniers in the local and state parties, are.

        What specific dangers are you concerned about? Are they the same dangers as when the Republicans controlled the WH, the Senate, and the House?

        EDIT to add: Can you name some significant legislative compromises that have occurred in the last 6 years?
        Last edited by LVAllen; 09-02-2022, 09:05 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

          You guys seem incapable of nuance. Not all republicans are election deniers. Our nation is most healthy when we have two strong parties who are forced to compromise. My hope is that Trump continues to be neutered to the point that he loses his grip on the party and they ignore him. This is already starting to happen.

          If you don't see any danger in the democrats holding the WH and both the senate and the house, you are being naive.
          I don't think it's a stretch to say that it's the extreme that is in control of the GOP right now. When the non election deniers are afraid to say anything it's irrelevant what they really think. When Lindsay Graham says something about violence knowing damn well how the extremist types are going to take his words as a green light to violence if the DOJ follows through and indicts Trump, then that needs to be defeated. I get what you're saying and would agree with it if this were normal times.

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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

            You guys seem incapable of nuance. Not all republicans are election deniers. Our nation is most healthy when we have two strong parties who are forced to compromise. My hope is that Trump continues to be neutered to the point that he loses his grip on the party and they ignore him. This is already starting to happen.

            If you don't see any danger in the democrats holding the WH and both the senate and the house, you are being naive.
            Yea all hell might break loose if the DREAM Act ever sees the light of day you're right. The GOP is garbage.
            "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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            • Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

              The ones most likely to run for control over the election apparatus, and to be supported by MAGA election deniers in the local and state parties, are.

              What specific dangers are you concerned about? Are they the same dangers as when the Republicans controlled the WH, the Senate, and the House?
              Huh? I just said, very explicitly, the following: "Our nation is most healthy when we have two strong parties who are forced to compromise. "

              Originally posted by LVAllen View Post
              EDIT to add: Can you name some significant legislative compromises that have occurred in the last 6 years?
              For starters, the infrastructure bill. 69 to 30 support in the senate after republicans demanded and obtained smaller budget numbers.

              https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/10/u...ll-passes.html
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                You guys seem incapable of nuance. Not all republicans are election deniers. Our nation is most healthy when we have two strong parties who are forced to compromise. My hope is that Trump continues to be neutered to the point that he loses his grip on the party and they ignore him. This is already starting to happen.

                If you don't see any danger in the democrats holding the WH and both the senate and the house, you are being naive.
                30% are . 50% wouldn't do anything about it

                Telling the truth about the election just got liz kicked out of leadership and lost the election for anyone else telling the truth

                The deniers are in control

                have you paid any attention to which side the new senate and house candidates are on? Various governor candidates already pledging to give EVs to the R regardless of the election outcome
                Last edited by Maximus; 09-02-2022, 10:19 AM.

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                • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                  30% are . 50% wouldn't do anything about it

                  Telling the truth about the election just got liz kicked out of leadership and lost the election for anyone else telling the truth

                  The deniers are in control
                  And Sarah Palin just lost in Alaska. The deniers are losing control.

                  Let's not forget that the democratic party has been wiping out republican moderates by funding ads for election deniers to the tune of $45M. Bastards.
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                    And Sarah Palin just lost in Alaska. The deniers are losing control.

                    Let's not forget that the democratic party has been wiping out republican moderates by funding ads for election deniers to the tune of $45M. Bastards.
                    The reason Sarah ("I can see Russia from my kitchen window") Palin lost is that Alaskans still haven't forgiven her for running with that bastard warmonger McCain.
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                      The reason Sarah ("I can see Russia from my kitchen window") Palin lost is that Alaskans still haven't forgiven her for running with that bastard warmonger McCain.
                      That's funny.

                      What a horrible decision he made when he picked her. What might have been...

                      Palin is the original populist windbag idiot. The OG Lauren Boebert.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                        And Sarah Palin just lost in Alaska. The deniers are losing control.

                        Let's not forget that the democratic party has been wiping out republican moderates by funding ads for election deniers to the tune of $45M. Bastards.
                        lol all the GOP gubernatorial primary candidates in AZ were election deniers. The biggest election denier endorsed by Trump ended up winning.

                        "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                        • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                          The reason Sarah ("I can see Russia from my kitchen window") Palin lost is that Alaskans still haven't forgiven her for running with that bastard warmonger McCain.
                          I heard the Trump wing of the GOP hates McCain so this post checks out.
                          "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                          • Originally posted by Commando View Post

                            lol all the GOP gubernatorial primary candidates in AZ were election deniers. The biggest election denier endorsed by Trump ended up winning.

                            Arizona is indeed a dumpster fire.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                              Arizona is indeed a dumpster fire.
                              Yep. Just arizona. Not indicative of the GOP at large at all. Don't worry -- you're safe up there in *checks notes* Utah, home of Mike Lee.
                              "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                              • Originally posted by Commando View Post

                                Yep. Just arizona. Not indicative of the GOP at large at all. Don't worry -- you're safe up there in *checks notes* Utah, home of Mike Lee.
                                And ... *checks notes* ... Mitt Romney and Spencer Cox.

                                I follow AZ politics. You folks are on a different level down there.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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