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  • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    I agree, that was a rather shameful period in our history. A personal memory and threadjack: My best friend's dad was VP of Operations for World Airways at the time. The airline's president, Ed Daly, wanted to help evacuate those in Saigon who had supported the U.S., knowing they were facing either certain death or at least years in a reeducation camp. He volunteered to fly his charter aircraft to Saigon to help with the airlift, but the D.C. bureaucrats dithered as Saigon fell. So Ed personally flew one of his aircraft to Saigon and, just before Saigon fell, he took a planeload of refugees out of the country. So dire was the situation that the plane was taxiing while refugees boarded the plane. Soldiers wanted to get in on the escape but Ed wanted civilians only. Hanging from one of the plane's boarding steps, he emptied his pistol into the air to scare off the soldiers.

    Great story and pic. I remember the stories of refugees being block as well as the "boat people" seeking to escape. The US has not been very welcoming to refugees over the years.
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    • Originally posted by falafel View Post
      Also, people change and evolve. Is that not a good thing? How far back are we willing to go back before we have to admit that the actions and policies of democrats and republicans XX years ago are irrelevant to the actions and policies of those same groups today?
      Oh come on. Haven't you seen the barrage of UT's arguments? Politicians are not allowed to change! They are hypocritical, the lot of them. The remedy is to vote in ideologically pure Libertarians.

      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
      I agree, that was a rather shameful period in our history. A personal memory and threadjack: My best friend's dad was VP of Operations for World Airways at the time. The airline's president, Ed Daly, wanted to help evacuate those in Saigon who had supported the U.S., knowing they were facing either certain death or at least years in a reeducation camp. He volunteered to fly his charter aircraft to Saigon to help with the airlift, but the D.C. bureaucrats dithered as Saigon fell. So Ed personally flew one of his aircraft to Saigon and, just before Saigon fell, he took a planeload of refugees out of the country. So dire was the situation that the plane was taxiing while refugees boarded the plane. Soldiers wanted to get in on the escape but Ed wanted civilians only. Hanging from one of the plane's boarding steps, he emptied his pistol into the air to scare off the soldiers.

      Wow. That is a gripping story.
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      • Originally posted by Eddie View Post
        I was flipping stations while driving again, so I honestly have no idea who said it, but a talk radio host was made the comment that the Democrats in congress just want Trump to fail. So they are doing their best to oppose all of his actions, all of his nominees, and everything he does. Hoping that they can cause enough problems for him that he fails.

        I couldn't help but thing: "Hmmm...that sounds an awful lot like the approach the Republicans took when Obama took office."
        Jokes on them though. The best way to let him fail to to not oppose any of Trump's actions.
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        • Fishing buddies...



          Looks like Scalia 2.0.
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          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
            Oh come on. Haven't you seen the barrage of UT's arguments? Politicians are not allowed to change! They are hypocritical, the lot of them. The remedy is to vote in ideologically pure Libertarians.
            Anything that Chuck Schumer said less than two years ago doesn't apply today? Good to know that Liberals are rather fickle and don't know what they hell believe in from minute to minute. Of course, republicans do the same thing. Before they were against Obamacare, for example, they were proposing it.

            One of my biggest gripes with Obama was his promise to put an end to the so called "Patriot Act" but ended up expanding it instead.



            So when you vote for a dem or republican you don't know what the hell you are getting.
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            • I knew nothing about Gorsuch until 10 mins ago. Now I know that he's the best SCOTUS pick ever and that he'll likely end all rights for women, overturn Roe v Wade, force all businesses to worship God, and kill everyone on death row all by himself. Man I love politics.
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              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                I knew nothing about Gorsuch until 10 mins ago. Now I know that he's the best SCOTUS pick ever and that he'll likely end all rights for women, overturn Roe v Wade, force all businesses to worship God, and kill everyone on death row all by himself. Man I love politics.
                All I know is that he likes fly fishing... I sent emails to my senators and gave them the thumbs up.
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                • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  I knew nothing about Gorsuch until 10 mins ago. Now I know that he's the best SCOTUS pick ever and that he'll likely end all rights for women, overturn Roe v Wade, force all businesses to worship God, and kill everyone on death row all by himself. Man I love politics.
                  How could they say that? The dems love this guy:

                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                  "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                    So were Jerry Brown and Joe Biden just fellating their republican counterparts when they tried to block the vietnam war refugees?... If so, the dems must be really good at this.


                    http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/29/fl...-even-orphans/

                    All those snowflakes protesting at the california airports would most likely melt if they studied a little history of their current governor and recent vice president. Republicans and democrats are the same sh*t, different days.
                    UT, you are flailing about here somewhat randomly. This Vietnam thing for example... no one cares. Old news.

                    But just go back two years ago and read the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act that restricted travel visas for citizens of "states of concern", e.g. Syria and Iraq. Obama promptly signed the bill into law (without any protests). Then early in 2016 (as I understand), the DHS extended the definition of "states of concern" to include Iran, Sudan, Yemen, Libya, and Somalia. Apparently because of this, persons from these countries could not apply for the visa waiver program. Instead, persons from those countries had to apply for a visa at US embassies in person, which is a much higher hurdle to cross (or an impossible one as Syria does not have an embassy). In essence, it made it very unlikely to attain a visa.

                    President Trump has simply dispensed with the fiction that these travelers are welcomed by our government, and issued a (temporary) ban. Outrage has ensued.

                    I could be wrong (it's hard to parse the fact from fiction these days) and I welcome Commando to correct me on the above.

                    Now to those that have been protesting at airports with placards denouncing President Trump – where were they when the countries on the "states of concern" list were being bombed by drones dispatched by the Obama administration?! Nowhere to be found is my guess. Under President Obama, the US pursued a policy of regime change in Syria, the goal of which was to overthrow the Assad government and install one run by the Islamist "rebels" that in are, all likelihood, allied with al-Qaeda and ideologically indistinguishable from ISIS. I love how those that are howling about the barbarianism of President Trump’s rejection of Syrian refugees are many of the same people that have been telling us that we haven’t been aiding the Syrian rebels enough, and that the US must intervene more strenuously in that country’s civil war.

                    Do these people not realize that our own interventionalist policies have contributed and probably exacerbated the refugee exodus?!

                    Boggles the mind.
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                    • Even when he's in the right, he screws it up. Such a dope.

                      Donald Trump firing Sally Yates isn’t the big story. How he did it is.
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                      • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                        Fishing buddies...



                        Looks like Scalia 2.0.
                        Gorsuch is what 47 or 48 in that pic and doesn't look a day over 65.

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                        • Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                          Now to those that have been protesting at airports with placards denouncing President Trump – where were they when the countries on the "states of concern" list were being bombed by drones dispatched by the Obama administration?! Nowhere to be found is my guess. Under President Obama, the US pursued a policy of regime change in Syria, the goal of which was to overthrow the Assad government and install one run by the Islamist "rebels" that in are, all likelihood, allied with al-Qaeda and ideologically indistinguishable from ISIS. I love how those that are howling about the barbarianism of President Trump’s rejection of Syrian refugees are many of the same people that have been telling us that we haven’t been aiding the Syrian rebels enough, and that the US must intervene more strenuously in that country’s civil war.

                          Do these people not realize that our own interventionalist policies have contributed and probably exacerbated the refugee exodus?!

                          Boggles the mind.
                          No, it doesn't boggle my mind. Ron Paul has been saying this for years. No one wants to listen to the Libertarian who has the most consistent voting record especially on this. They would rather vote for a dem or republican that they have no idea what they actually are going to do in office.

                          These protesters apparently had no problem bombing the hell out of these people, killing their children, and creating more terrorists. Maybe Trump should just adopt the Obama policy of bombing the hell of them some more. The problem with Trump is that he would likely pull out the nukes. However that would implement the Obama policy for over there a helluva lot faster.
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                          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                            No, it doesn't boggle my mind. Ron Paul has been saying this for years. No one wants to listen to the Libertarian who has the most consistent voting record especially on this. They would rather vote for a dem or republican that they have no idea what they actually are going to do in office.

                            These protesters apparently had no problem bombing the hell out of these people, killing their children, and creating more terrorists. Maybe Trump should just adopt the Obama policy of bombing the hell of them some more. The problem with Trump is that he would likely pull out the nukes. However that would implement the Obama policy for over there a helluva lot faster.
                            I appreciate the effort you have put in the last few days. If there were some serious leaders in the Libertarian party I might be persuaded. I think I would go Independent just because Trump won as a republican, but then the dem. leadership keeps talking and acting as idiotic as Trump so I guess I won't make the effort to change my registration yet.

                            I looked up the Judiciary committee on ping, I won't use google anymore and to my dismay Sanders and Warren are not on the committee. At least Franken is.

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                            • Gorsuch is a good pick, about as good as anyone could expect. I think he'll get through, which I think is good.

                              That said, my cynical side is telling me Trump is just throwing a bone to conservatives because he knew this was important to them. The reality I think is that Trump doesn't give a flying flip about the Supreme Court. Just wait until this conservative leaning court who cares about upholding the Constitution starts to push back on Trump's crazy and unconstitutional crap and we'll start seeing the temper tantrums and "betrayal" tweets, as if the Supreme Court is supposed to be bowing down to him. It's coming.

                              Also, for those a little surprised that Trump is trying to do things he said he would, it's about time to start taking him literally. That's the type of single minded, linear, black and white thinking he does.
                              Last edited by BlueK; 02-01-2017, 07:28 AM.

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                              • The whole #deleteuber thing is just another example of why these SJW-type boycotts are just dumb. So people will now start using Lyft, which just makes Carl Icahn (a big Trump supporter) more money.

                                I think most of my conservative friends are back to shopping at Target.


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