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  • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
    We need to build a wall up north also to keep those crazy Canadians out.
    lol No need; Trump was elected.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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    • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
      We need to build a wall up north also to keep those crazy Canadians out. They could be walking around our country illegally and no one would know because they usually look like most of the rest of us. That's why I think they're even more dangerous than our neighbors from the south. America First!
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
        lol No need; Trump was elected.
        It's pretty true. Trump's Fortress America will probably work better than he thinks since most foreigners are developing a pretty strong distaste for Trump's America. The world's new motto: "America? Nah, We're Good"
        "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          The fact that the wall (yes, there are multiple, but you know the one we are talking about) just happened to capture the best farmland and water sources on the Israeli side of the fence was just a happy coincidence! This includes the property of many Palestinians who had lived peacefully with the Israelis and never caused any problems. Tough luck, Amir.
          I have no idea what section of wall/fence you and Maximus are referencing.
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
            I have no idea what section of wall/fence you and Maximus are referencing.
            The West Bank Barrier Wall built between 2000-2003.

            Why not build the wall along the established Israel/West Bank border? That would have been defensible. This was just another brazen land/resource grab under the guise of security. 9.5% of the West Bank land was annexed. Yes, there have been some security benefits, but they would have had the same security benefits building the wall on established borders.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • Trump argument bolstered: Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, study finds

              Hillary Clinton garnered more than 800,000 votes from noncitizens on Nov. 8, an approximation far short of President Trump’s estimate of up to 5 million illegal voters but supportive of his charges of fraud.
              Political scientist Jesse Richman of Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, has worked with colleagues to produce groundbreaking research on noncitizen voting, and this week he posted a blog in response to Mr. Trump’s assertion.
              Based on national polling by a consortium of universities, a report by Mr. Richman said 6.4 percent of the estimated 20 million adult noncitizens in the U.S. voted in November. He extrapolated that that percentage would have added 834,381 net votes for Mrs. Clinton, who received about 2.8 million more votes than Mr. Trump.
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              http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-from-nonciti/

              Who cares? Clinton still got the popular vote by 2 mil.
              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-from-nonciti/

                Who cares? Clinton still got the popular vote by 2 mil.
                I don't, except for the fact the talking heads on CNN were saying it was foolish to think anything more than a very small number of undocumenteds vote and I enjoy anything that confirms my view the MSM is the opposition. Fortunately on this board the anti-Trumps are very reasonable and didn't make such foolish remarks.

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  The West Bank Barrier Wall built between 2000-2003.

                  Why not build the wall along the established Israel/West Bank border? That would have been defensible. This was just another brazen land/resource grab under the guise of security. 9.5% of the West Bank land was annexed. Yes, there have been some security benefits, but they would have had the same security benefits building the wall on established borders.
                  Unfortunately Trump is a diehard Israel supporter. I wonder if he would continue dissing Israel like Pres. Obama did if eventually the terrorist groups would come to at least not hate us and stop the attacks on the west?

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                  • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                    I don't, except for the fact the talking heads on CNN were saying it was foolish to think anything more than a very small number of undocumenteds vote and I enjoy anything that confirms my view the MSM is the opposition. Fortunately on this board the anti-Trumps are very reasonable and didn't make such foolish remarks.
                    Do you know the difference between undocumenteds and non-citizens?

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                    • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                      My wife works in healthcare administration at a hospital and told me about the frustration of fellow manager there who has to let a really qualified and successful nurse go in a few months because her visa has run out and she must return to India now. Everyone loves this nurse and she's great at what she does and is specialized to the point that it will be costly to replace and retrain someone else to take her position. But the law is the law. The only way she would be allowed to stay is if they can show there is no one from this country available to replace her. The problem is that the law doesn't say it has to be someone with a comparable level of skill or experience. If they can find any entry level nurse from this country it means the foreigner has to go home. Sorry, but I think that's idiotic. It's not good for that hospital or the patients, and it's not like nurses from this country can't find work. US immigration law the way it is right now is pretty stupid.
                      She could have married a U.S. citizen and then just immediately filed for a green card and had a work permit meanwhile, independent of any worker-based visa. Meanwhile, if she had a sister who was a U.S. citizen who wanted to file for her, she would have to go back to her India and wait about 14 years for a visa number to become available. That's exactly how stupid it is.
                      "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                      • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                        She could have married a U.S. citizen and then just immediately filed for a green card and had a work permit meanwhile, independent of any worker-based visa. Meanwhile, if she had a sister who was a U.S. citizen who wanted to file for her, she would have to go back to her India and wait about 14 years for a visa number to become available. That's exactly how stupid it is.
                        The biggest frustration I have with this issue is that the average citizen doesn't know how stupid the current laws are, and 99% when they do find out end up agreeing that they're stupid.

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                        • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                          Do you know the difference between undocumenteds and non-citizens?
                          An undocumented can vote and a non-citizen can't? While you are explaining things to me, what is the difference between a undocumented and an illegal?

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                          • On NPR today they were interviewing a protester in Philadelphia over the elector college and his words were "why should we let a bunch of people who live out in the middle of nowhere decide who is going to be president". Made me laugh a little that he felt everything between Philadelphia and Los Angeles was the middle of nowhere. Could be a long four years.

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                            • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                              An undocumented can vote and a non-citizen can't? While you are explaining things to me, what is the difference between a undocumented and an illegal?
                              That's funny. I'll take that as meaning you have no idea what the difference is. That's ok, many Americans don't. Undocumented/illegal is a non-citizen, but there are also millions of non-citizens who are here legally who also should not be voting. Why do you automatically assume that it's only the illegals who are voting and not some student from Germany here living legally, but trying to sneak into the voting booth? I would think a non-citizen who lives here legally would have a FAR EASIER time pulling it off if they tried to vote than an illegal because they tend to blend in better. What do you think? The study cited in the article was talking about all non-citizens, not just illegals.
                              Last edited by BlueK; 01-27-2017, 10:14 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                                That's funny. undocumented/illegal is a non-citizen, but there are also legal alien noncitizens who also should not be voting. Why do you automatically assume that it's only the illegals who are voting and not some student from Germany here living legally, but trying to sneak into the voting booth? I would think a non-citizen who lives here legally would have a FAR EASIER time pulling it off if they tried to vote than an illegal because they tend to blend in better. Sadly, I think some Americans wouldn't care about those people voting even though it's illegal. What do you think? The study cited in the article was talking about all non-citizens, not just illegals.

                                Why don't you just state what you want instead of play the question game. You say some pretty stupid things in my opinion, but I don't give you a quiz as to why you did.

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