President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[byu71]

But this is the worst stage. Senility with moments of sobriety where you are aware of how unaware you are becoming. Stay strong my friend! In a short while life becomes very exciting where everyone you meet is a stranger.

I appreciate the kind words. The stranger thing started years ago. When I was living in PG I was doing something on the BYU campus with a life long friend. I saw someone else I knew and said, Joe I want you to meet my life long friend.................... My mind went blank and I couldn't remember my life long friends name.

[PaloAltoCougar]

I agree with Trump: ...

I actually agree with a majority of the bullet points you list in favor of Trump, but I disagree very strongly with the way he has said he would address those bullet points, in part because he demonstrates such ignorance about the underlying issue. For example, imposing > 30% tariffs on imports from China and/or Mexico? Blocking immigrants from known terrorist regions? Laughable. Nearly all of the 9/11 terrorists arrived from such terrorist areas as Germany; I'm confident al Qaeda and ISIS can figure out a way to get their agents in from even the most benign regions. Meanwhile, suffering women and children from Syria and elsewhere, who don't have the means to emigrate from "safe" regions, are being slaughtered because of Trumpian immigration policy. And now Trump is doubling down on his belief that torture is effective, despite volumes of evidence to the contrary.

Many of Trump's objectives are okay, but his proposed means (based only his gut reactions) are usually wrong. My hope is that his appointees can serve as effective filters against his baser instincts.

[BlueK]

You are falling prey to the same trap Hillary fell for.

They are not kooky or angry, but somewhat practical given their lose-lose situation.

They are like Buffalo Bills fans, who year in and year out, know, despite their love for the team, that ultimately the team will mostly suck and do nothing. They show up, year in and year out.

Suddenly, a new General Manager shows up and promise to shake up the status quo. He says a lot of quirky things, but he shows energy and promises to make changes so that not only will the Bills make the playoffs, they are going to the Super Bowl. You don't believe it at first, because all the other team managers are laughing.

But he hires a new coach, starts making trades like crazy, and totally redesigns the team. Others are claiming foul, and he keeps saying weird things, but things are changing, so you hope, "maybe, just maybe...."

I think the hard care are more like Bills fans.

Seriously, maybe you're right, but it's hard for me not to think of most of them as people who should be democrats based on their ideas of government, but they don't want to be because it would mean having to associate with folks who aren't white. They want their free stuff. They're just mad that the mexicans and blacks are getting more of it than they are. I have a brother in law who fits this description pretty well.

[Jeff Lebowski]

If you disagreed with President Obama on anything, you are a racist. If you agree with Trump on anything you are a Trumpologist.

I wouldn't characterize it that way at all. I agree with Trump on a few things. A Trumpologist is someone who takes some crazy indefensible thing Trump has said or done and rationalizes it or defends it, either explicitly or implicitly. For example, creekster completely mischaracterized what Steven Peck wrote in the article and thereby mocked Peck's criticism of Trump. You do this yourself. A lot.

[Topper]

Seriously, maybe you're right, but it's hard for me not to think of most of them as people who should be democrats based on their ideas of government, but they don't want to be because it would mean having to associate with folks who aren't white. They want their free stuff. They're just mad that the mexicans and blacks are getting more of it than they are. I have a brother in law who fits this description pretty well.

Given the quantity of voters, there may be some who fit that description, but I disagree the majority fall into that category.

I doubt any of the posters here fall into the category of the Trump voters, so it is difficult to put ourselves into their mindset.

Many of these voters are frustrated with the past eight years, watching Obama ignore compromise (yes I know Dems claim it was all the fault of the GOP). For the past several decades, heir towns and jobs have declined. Blue collar workers often work in situations which are dull but difficult. They see no hope. And the people that used to care, the Democrats ignore you and take you for granted.

Then somebody comes along, speaks how you do, carelessly, crassly and says he will shake up Washington. You say, if I'm going down, at least give it one more try, and if not, take everybody else down with me.

I don't believe they want free stuff and hate other ethnic groups. Some may blame the influx of immigrants on the decline of good paying jobs, but that is not the same as not wanting to associate with them.

[YOhio]

Tons of State Department people resigned en masse today. There's something pretty funny about the scene of self-important bureaucrats patting themselves on the back as they board the Foggy Bottom metro, excited to start on their consulting/contractor gig where they're paid twice as much to either do their old job or advise the new person. Fortunately they kept their principle!

Now I'm sure there will be negative outcomes from this, but I'm a pretty simple guy when it comes to the State Department. If a State employee thinks it was a good idea to give Iran a cargo plane with palettes of cash and work hard to keep it secret, then I don't think they'll be missed. Something tells me that's the majority of those who resigned today.

[byu71]

Many of Trump's objectives are okay, but his proposed means (based only his gut reactions) are usually wrong. My hope is that his appointees can serve as effective filters against his baser instincts.

I agree and hope the republican congress has the backbone to say no to his dopey things

I know this won't be a popular thing to say, but I wish the law would change on waterboarding. If my family were in imminent danger from a terrorist, I would want them to do whatever it takes. The defense secretary though says it isn't that effective and I have a lot more faith in his opinion on this matter than I do mine or Trumps.


I am quite surprised you blame the slaughter that is happening and has happened in Syria on Trump policies. Let's see has he been in office a week yet?

Maybe you meant to say President Obama's

On 9-11 I will read up on the point made. As has been discussed my memory isn't the greatest. Seems to me a big problem was the terrorists overstaying their visa's. Yes, the refugee's who may be terrorists that filtered into Europe could be a big problem since they will be able to freely come to the USA from Europe.

[Commando]

If you disagreed with President Obama on anything, you are a racist. If you agree with Trump on anything you are a Trumpologist.

I agree with Trump:


5) Immigration
a)Stengthen the border patrol
b)block immigrants from known terrorist areas until vetting is improved
c)round up criminal undocumenteds
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No. Immigration reform, such as creating a seasonal labor visa and getting rid of antiquated quotas will make border traffic manageable for the current force, which is ridiculously overstaffed as it is. Obama poured billions into border patrol as some sort of appeasement politics and it was the biggest waste of money ever. I can scarcely fathom that the winning candidate ran on the platform of proposing an even bigger waste of money-perhaps the biggest waste of money in U.S. history-- the Wall.

As for vetting? The refugee program is ridiculously thorough, with on average a 2-year vetting process of these men, women and children-- many of them doctors, engineers and professors, by the way-- waiting around in refugee camps after tragedy has taken their life as they know it. Not one person has ever been killed by a refugee that I'm aware, and even if there is an outlier it would certainly be within the regular margin of likelihood of the general population. Trump is playing appeasement to those who believe in the muslim boogeyman.

Round up criminal undocumented? This is Obama's official policy. In fact, DACA (deferred action for childhood arrivals)--known to Sean Hannity and other douchebags as 'Obama's Illegal Amnesty' is a program that is part of DHS' prosecutorial discretion sorting process which allows undocumented people brought here as kids prior to 2007 who have acquired no real criminal record, high school graduation, etc. to register with DHS, set themselves apart, and obtain a work permit. Those who don't qualify are subject to removal proceedings in immigration court i.e. criminal undocumented. The backlog of cases in immigration court is around 30,000 in Phoenix alone. More border patrol doesn't help- it's the obsolete laws we refuse to update that are gumming up the works.

[Topper]

Tons of State Department people resigned en masse today. There's something pretty funny about the scene of self-important bureaucrats patting themselves on the back as they board the Foggy Bottom metro, excited to start on their consulting/contractor gig where they're paid twice as much to either do their old job or advise the new person. Fortunately they kept their principle!

Now I'm sure there will be negative outcomes from this, but I'm a pretty simple guy when it comes to the State Department. If a State employee thinks it was a good idea to give Iran a cargo plane with palettes of cash and work hard to keep it secret, then I don't think they'll be missed. Something tells me that's the majority of those who resigned today.

Government employees resigning brings a smile to me face, even though losing experience is usually a negative.

We are seeing a upheaval and maybe that can turn out to be a positive.

[byu71]

I wouldn't characterize it that way at all. I agree with Trump on a few things. A Trumpologist is someone who takes some crazy indefensible thing Trump has said or done and rationalizes it or defends it, either explicitly or implicitly. For example, creekster completely mischaracterized what Steven Peck wrote in the article and thereby mocked Peck's criticism of Trump. You do this yourself. A lot.

You kinda remind of Trump with your bull shit dismissal of someone who disagrees with you. Resorting to name calling when you are frustrated is also similar.

[RC Vikings]

This shows a character flaw of mine. A few years ago I used to watch her late night talk show. I will admit she was funny. I stopped watching though because back in my youth she would be considered a "slut". I know times of changed and that isn't the case in todays society.

Senility setting in I saw Chelsea and automatically thought of Chelsea Handler (sp)

Another Mormon girl gone bad, Handler that is, not Manning.

[Commando]

You know you're a true Trumpologist if you even dare bring up or defend Trump's inauguration crowd size. I'm completely embarrassed for America that that conversation even happened.

[byu71]

No. Immigration reform, such as creating a seasonal labor visa and getting rid of antiquated quotas will make border traffic manageable for the current force, which is ridiculously overstaffed as it is. Obama poured billions into border patrol as some sort of appeasement politics and it was the biggest waste of money ever. I can scarcely fathom that the winning candidate ran on the platform of proposing an even bigger waste of money-perhaps the biggest waste of money in U.S. history-- the Wall.

As for vetting? The refugee program is ridiculously thorough, with on average a 2-year vetting process of these men, women and children-- many of them doctors, engineers and professors, by the way-- waiting around in refugee camps after tragedy has taken their life as they know it. Not one person has ever been killed by a refugee that I'm aware, and even if there is an outlier it would certainly be within the regular margin of likelihood of the general population. Trump is playing appeasement to those who believe in the muslim boogeyman.

Round up criminal undocumented? This is Obama's official policy. In fact, DACA (deferred action for childhood arrivals)--known to Sean Hannity and other douchebags as 'Obama's Illegal Amnesty' is a program that is part of DHS' prosecutorial discretion sorting process which allows undocumented people brought here as kids prior to 2007 who have acquired no real criminal record, high school graduation, etc. to register with DHS, set themselves apart, and obtain a work permit. Those who don't qualify are subject to removal proceedings in immigration court i.e. criminal undocumented. The backlog of cases in immigration court is around 30,000 in Phoenix alone. More border patrol doesn't help- it's the obsolete laws we refuse to update that are gumming up the works.

Are you in favor of open borders? How about automatic citizenship for those who entered the country illegally?

[Commando]

Are you in favor of open borders? How about automatic citizenship for those who entered the country illegally?

No.

[Uncle Ted]

Government employees resigning brings a smile to me face, even though losing experience is usually a negative.

We are seeing a upheaval and maybe that can turn out to be a positive.

I am guessing Trump would have fired them anyway.