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  • Originally posted by croquet
    We also have plenty of recent examples of Muslim extremists, particularly ISIS and al Qaeda, destroying ancient, Christian historical sites and churches. This is on a different level than a few rogue individuals.

    . . .

    Regarding Muslims: On the one hand most individual Muslims are good, peace-loving people, but there is also many problematic things within that religion. Islam is animating the behavior of most terror attacks around the world today. It's not true that it's just deranged people that happen to be Muslim. Their faith drives them and supports them in their violent efforts. In many countries Islam is the official religion and their treatment towards, for example, women and gays are atrocious. Where else in the world do they throw suspected gay people off of rooftops? No Christian nation does this. Saudia Arabia is just now allowing women to drive. European countries with large influxes of Muslim immigrant populations are seeing huge spikes in rape and sexual assaults. Where is the middle ground that sees all sides to this issue and is not shut up as a racist / bigot just because one has concerns about some of the things happening under the banner of Islam?
    upon further reflection this is a truly revolting take.
    Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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    • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
      upon further reflection this is a truly revolting take.
      I don’t know. It seems pretty close to Bill Maher’s take on Islam. There are significant issues with Muslim teachings, as there are with most religions (Mormons certainly aren’t excluded). The lefts embrace of Islam is baffling given the misogynistic, homophobic, nationalistic, supernatural nature of the religion.


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      • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        I don’t know. It seems pretty close to Bill Maher’s take on Islam. There are significant issues with Muslim teachings, as there are with most religions (Mormons certainly aren’t excluded). The lefts embrace of Islam is baffling given the misogynistic, homophobic, nationalistic, supernatural nature of the religion.
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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          Podcast.



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          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
            I don’t know. It seems pretty close to Bill Maher’s take on Islam. There are significant issues with Muslim teachings, as there are with most religions (Mormons certainly aren’t excluded). The lefts embrace of Islam is baffling given the misogynistic, homophobic, nationalistic, supernatural nature of the religion.
            Which is pretty appalling.
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            • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
              I don’t know. It seems pretty close to Bill Maher’s take on Islam. There are significant issues with Muslim teachings, as there are with most religions (Mormons certainly aren’t excluded). The lefts embrace of Islam is baffling given the misogynistic, homophobic, nationalistic, supernatural nature of the religion.


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              Yup, Moliere. It might be one of the few areas ever where my thoughts align with Maher, but he makes solid points. og, on the other hand, has the same programmed response as Charlie Rose who can't deal with the facts.

              Last edited by Crockett; 11-29-2017, 03:33 PM.

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              • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                upon further reflection this is a truly revolting take.
                By Christian nation, I think he means secular nation

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                • nobody is mounting a defense of islam (radical or otherwise) you dumb dumbs.
                  Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                  • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                    By Christian nation, I think he means secular nation
                    Other than The Vatican, is there any other kind? You know what I mean.
                    Last edited by Crockett; 11-29-2017, 03:53 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                      upon further reflection this is a truly revolting take.
                      I think it was a version of the "yeah, we suck, but these guys are worse" that pretty much everyone seems to be using to justify defending the indefensible. I agree with Crockett that religious zealots cause a lot of problems in the world. So have secularists. Stalin and Mao weren't front and center in any church that I know of. The world's problems aren't caused by religion. Rather, despots use religion to justify their actions, and the desperate and ignorant follow along.

                      Of all the cases against Trump, I think the case for him being a true racist is the weakest. He's done racist things, which may make him a racist depending on your definition, but I think he's more of an opportunist. I don't thinks he hates racists or religions; I think he just has no respect for any of them and therefore does bigoted things to play to the extremists in his party. Maybe it's a distinction without a difference...
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                      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                        For the love of God, can someone stop Trump from tweeting.

                        https://www.thedailybeast.com/presid...out-snuff-film
                        And can someone stop the media from normalizing GWB in response?

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                        • Although his nicknames for his opponents is immature, I can’t help but love that he calls Kim Jong Un “Little Rocket Man.”
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                          • Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                            Although his nicknames for his opponents is immature, I can’t help but love that he calls Kim Jong Un “Little Rocket Man.”
                            It's all fun and games until nuclear war starts.

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                            • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                              It's all fun and games until nuclear war starts.
                              Yeah, as bad as I believe Hillary would have been, she would have at least kept her middle school bully antics hidden. Poke a rabid dog enough, and he'll eventually chew through his cage to get to you.
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                              • So Trump retweets those horrible inflammatory videos, at least one of which has been proven to be fake. His press secretary defended it by saying that even though the video is fake, the threat highlighted in the video is real. Bloody hell, these are the same idiots daily ranting against fake news.
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