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  • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
    He's tearing the country, and his own party apart. That is "doing something." He also is taking a shit on our standing in the world. Provoking allies and trading partners alike. He's doing plenty.

    He is also lending legitimacy to dictators like Erdogan, Putin and Duterte. He bully's domestic leaders who criticize his poor response to and management of natural disasters.
    Agreed. These things aren't trivial. The worst part is that there is still plenty of time for him to do some disastrous things. War with N. Korea and Iran at the same time? Sounds fun.

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    • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
      Crockett, Shaka, a few others seem to think he's doing great. Sorry if I misunderstood. There are a lot of things he doesn't want people to see -- his finances for one. What's he hiding there?
      Actually I don't think he's great. I think he's largely waisting a significant opportunity. However, unlike you and Frank, I don't think he's bringing the apocalypse down upon us.

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      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
        They also think he isn't racist.
        He's about as racist as your father.

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        • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
          Crockett, Shaka, a few others seem to think he's doing great. Sorry if I misunderstood. There are a lot of things he doesn't want people to see -- his finances for one. What's he hiding there?
          He’s made all financial disclosures required for his office. What more do you want? He’s rich, just not as rich as he says he is.

          And I don’t blame him for not releasing his finances. I think he’s an idiot but don’t care to see his tax returns.


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          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
            He’s made all financial disclosures required for his office. What more do you want? He’s rich, just not as rich as he says he is.

            And I don’t blame him for not releasing his finances. I think he’s an idiot but don’t care to see his tax returns.


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            We deserve to know if there are conflicts of interest that could affect national security.

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            • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
              We deserve to know if there are conflicts of interest that could affect national security.
              Weird that the law doesn’t require that kind of disclosure.


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              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                Actually I don't think he's great. I think he's largely waisting a significant opportunity. However, unlike you and Frank, I don't think he's bringing the apocalypse down upon us.
                He is wasting an opportunity because he's an idiot. That's very unlikely to change. And no, he hasn't brought down the Apocalypse yet. But if he were to do that it would be too late, right? There is a reason Senator Corker is a little concerned. Or is he also crazy to worry about the White House being adult daycare trying its hardest to keep the boss from undercutting the secretary of state on security issues like North Korea and Iran?
                Last edited by BlueK; 10-10-2017, 08:44 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  Weird that the law doesn’t require that kind of disclosure.

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                  Weird response.

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                  • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                    He's about as racist as your father.
                    Way more than mine. And he's in his 70s.

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                    • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                      Weird response.
                      No it's a realistic response based on fact. You guys may want to peruse every nuance of his life but there are things that really aren't your business. What disclosures are your business are stated in the law.

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                      • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                        No it's a realistic response based on fact. You guys may want to peruse every nuance of his life but there are things that really aren't your business. What disclosures are your business are stated in the law.
                        yeah, well, we'll see what eventually is revealed. I hope there is nothing there. We do know now that he was trying to build a Trump Tower in Russia at the very time he was lying about not doing any business in Russia. And is there a good reason why he and practically every member of his original team of advisers purposely left out their dealings with Russia on their applications for security clearances? That was a violation of the law.
                        Last edited by BlueK; 10-10-2017, 08:32 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                          No it's a realistic response based on fact. You guys may want to peruse every nuance of his life but there are things that really aren't your business. What disclosures are your business are stated in the law.
                          ah, who could forget the "show us your long firm birth certificate you muslim terrorist act of 2010"
                          Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                          • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                            ah, who could forget the "show us your long firm birth certificate you muslim terrorist act of 2010"
                            We have yet to see that birth certificate!

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                            • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                              We have yet to see that birth certificate!
                              We did see it. But then they said it must have been fake.

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                              • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                                We did see it. But then they said it must have been fake.
                                and by "they" he means our currently sitting president
                                Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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