President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[Shaka]

Remaking? haha


uh his AG is not for reform



the number has been decreasing since obama




so simply withdrawing from an accord is now an accomplishment? And starting the process to do something is an accomplishment?




"Attempting to.."
"looking at...

when you have to resort to "attempting to" on a list of accomplishments, it is an admission there is nothing of substance

Look Mr. Snowflake. I didn't say you had to agree with everything he's done I just stated that he's not sitting around doing nothing.

EPA: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/c...dget-cuts.html

Immigration: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/27/politi...ion/index.html I've read that the number of illegal immigrants is down 20% since Obama. That's significant.

Sessions has caused the AG office to do a 180 on several things. Hardly insignificant.

I think the scaling back of Bear's Ears and probably Grand Staircase is virtually guaranteed.

Paris? Bold move and absolutely significant.

[Shaka]

FTR, I still like you trump guys even if you have lost your freaking minds.

You're not so bad yourself.

[Maximus]

Look Mr. Snowflake. I didn't say you had to agree with everything he's done I just stated that he's not sitting around doing nothing.

EPA: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/c...dget-cuts.html

Immigration: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/27/politi...ion/index.html I've read that the number of illegal immigrants is down 20% since Obama. That's significant.

Sessions has caused the AG office to do a 180 on several things. Hardly insignificant.

I think the scaling back of Bear's Ears and probably Grand Staircase is virtually guaranteed.

Paris? Bold move and absolutely significant.

snowflake? haha so being against trump is now being a snowflake. got it.

You failed to mention no significant legislative accomplishments.

Please share how these proposed EPA cuts are a good thing for the country and environment.


Sessions for an increase of drug enforcement and increase of mandatory minimum sentences. Please share how that is a good thing.

[creekster]

What do you do to stay on top of current events/consume news?

Frank, this is an incredibly patronizing question/comment.

But, since you have raised this issue numerous times, I would like to ask you to tell me, using only primary sources (IOW testimony from congressional hearings or final reports from investigations, etc., as opposed to reports of such things) what, exactly, the Russians did in the election. Given that you hold yourself out as being better informed than most, what precisely do the primary sources show? Becasue apart from this, the rhetoric on the issue is so politicized on both sides that it has virtually no value. My impression is, however, that precious few specifics are known and most of the commentary is specualtion, hyperbole or both. My mind is open but I want actual information, not commentary full of guesses masquerading as reporting.

[Topper]

basically, nothing else matter since he had a good SC nominee. all of the other lies and incompetence is irrelevant apparently.

He has had a chance to govern. He has shown no interest.

Admittedly Trump was a bad choice and I just shut my eyes and ears every morning. But what is an average voter to do, not one with money and lobbying power.

His public demeanor is embarrassing, reminding me of the Italian, Berlusconi (sp?). His approach to governance shows either a disinterest or such extreme narcissism that he doesn't give a shit.

My primary perhaps unreasonable hope is that Mattis, Kelly and Tillerson can maintain some semblance of consistency and governance, until President Pence takes office, who hopefully won't be as awful as I anticipate.

I note that his trip across the pond to our European allies received some positive reviews.

OTOH, with the likes of Shumer and Warren, there is no reason to believe they would not dismantle the institutions people are wringing their hands over to grab power from the GOP. Their handling of the Russia affair makes me have no confidence in them at all.

[creekster]

snowflake? haha so being against trump is now being a snowflake. got it.

You failed to mention no significant legislative accomplishments.

Please share how these proposed EPA cuts are a good thing for the country and environment.


Sessions for an increase of drug enforcement and increase of mandatory minimum sentences. Please share how that is a good thing.

This is a different debate. You argued there are no accomplishments (amazingly enough suggesting that pulling out of the Paris accord was not an accomplishment, even though I have no doubt you think such act was hugely significant) but now want to argue about the merits of the actions. Just becasue you think what they are doing is bad doesn't mean they are not doing anything, as your post here tacitly concedes.

[Northwestcoug]

Trump is at times a dope who could stand to act more presidential. I think other times he's got a method to his madness.

Reading the text of Trump's interviews really does shine a light on his dopiness. For instance,

WSJ: What do you think is a reasonable corporate rate? We’ve heard 20 percent, but —

TRUMP: Well, you know, we’re going for 15 [percent]. We’re going to see, and we’ll see. But, you know, I don’t want to say anything about negotiation. I mean, we are asking for 15 percent, and we think we’re going to grow tremendously.

So I deal with foreign countries, and despite what you may read, I have unbelievable relationships with all of the foreign leaders. They like me. I like them. You know, it’s amazing. So I’ll call, like, major — major countries, and I’ll be dealing with the prime minister or the president. And I’ll say, how are you doing? Oh, don’t know, don’t know, not well, Mr. President, not well. I said, well, what’s the problem? Oh, GDP 9 percent, not well. And I’m saying to myself, here we are at like 1 percent, dying, and they’re at 9 percent and they’re unhappy. So, you know, and these are like countries, you know, fairly large, like 300 million people. You know, a lot of people say — they say, well, but the United States is large. And then you call places like Malaysia, Indonesia, and you say, you know, how many people do you have? And it’s pretty amazing how many people they have. So China’s going to be at 7 [percent] or 8 percent, and they have a billion-five, right? So we should do really well.

But in order to do that — you know, it’s tax reform, but it’s a big tax cut. But it’s simplification, it’s reform, and it’s a big tax cut, 15 –

It's a wonder why the WSJ didn't publish the full text of the interview....

[Jeff Lebowski]

A few more trump "accomplishments":

1. Initiated a series of healthy discussions in congress about ObamaCare.

2. Encouraged our police force to do their jobs with more vigor and spirit.

3. Made our country safer by keeping those nasty muslims out of our great country

4. Withdrawn from that crazy plan to make Mexico built a wall.

[Maximus]

This is a different debate. You argued there are no accomplishments (amazingly enough suggesting that pulling out of the Paris accord was not an accomplishment, even though I have no doubt you think such act was hugely significant) but now want to argue about the merits of the actions. Just becasue you think what they are doing is bad doesn't mean they are not doing anything, as your post here tacitly concedes.

When you have to reach to withdrawing from an agreement and plans to do x or y as accomplishments, you are reaching for the bottom of the barrel.

The accomplishments are thus limited to plans and executive actions. Not much to brag about

[Jeff Lebowski]

snowflake? haha so being against trump is now being a snowflake. got it.

Just embrace it! I just did.

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[Shaka]

This is a different debate. You argued there are no accomplishments (amazingly enough suggesting that pulling out of the Paris accord was not an accomplishment, even though I have no doubt you think such act was hugely significant) but now want to argue about the merits of the actions. Just becasue you think what they are doing is bad doesn't mean they are not doing anything, as your post here tacitly concedes.

Amazing a golfing monkey can get it but the mighty Maximus can't.

[creekster]

When you have to reach to withdrawing from an agreement and plans to do x or y as accomplishments, you are reaching for the bottom of the barrel.

The accomplishments are thus limited to plans and executive actions. Not much to brag about

And why, given the target rich environment that Trump and his team present, do you want to quibble over whether withdrawing from the Paris accord, which withdrawal was an action, and was a fulfillment of a campaign promise, and was seen as hugely significant here and abroad, represents something that you see as an accomplishment? but as you wish.

[Maximus]

Look Mr. Snowflake. I didn't say you had to agree with everything he's done I just stated that he's not sitting around doing nothing.

EPA: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/c...dget-cuts.html

Immigration: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/27/politi...ion/index.html I've read that the number of illegal immigrants is down 20% since Obama. That's significant.

Sessions has caused the AG office to do a 180 on several things. Hardly insignificant.

I think the scaling back of Bear's Ears and probably Grand Staircase is virtually guaranteed.

Paris? Bold move and absolutely significant.

And the epa article is about proposed budget cuts. That counts now? All he has to do is propose changes?

[old_gregg]

Amazing a golfing monkey can get it but the mighty Maximus can't.

heavy on the condescension today bro

[Shaka]

heavy on the condescension today bro

It's been a long day.