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  • Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    Rand Paul is right about everything he says in that interview. Love that guy.
    That was funny.

    I like both Rand Paul and McCain. About a million times more than I like Trump.
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    • In case you thought Melissa McCarthy's SNL portrayal of Spicer was over the top, check this out.

      http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...l-clip-sot.cnn



      I hate this administration so much.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
        Rand Paul is right about everything he says in that interview. Love that guy.
        It was a dick move blocking Montenegro from joining NATO.

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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          In case you thought Melissa McCarthy's SNL portrayal of Spicer was over the top, check this out.

          http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...l-clip-sot.cnn



          I hate this administration so much.
          Ha! Spicer cracks me up. That guy is looney.


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          • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
            It was a dick move blocking Montenegro from joining NATO.
            Eh, no, it wasn't. Adding Montenegro to NATO is absurd.
            You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
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            • Originally posted by Eddie View Post
              I think this is interesting.

              Because, quite honestly, I think that the reason Trump won was more for the items highlighted (free markets, free trade, small government, deregulation...) are what carried Trump into the White House.

              I won't deny that some racist SOB's voted for him too. But if it were just the racists he never would've made it out of the GOP primary.

              I think, in general, the center of society is seeing government as being at least as likely to mess things up as it is to help. Maybe it's just me, but I think people are tiring of the nanny state mentality of the government taking care of everything and making the important decisions for everyone.
              Promising to break NAFTA and other free trade agreements and slap tariffs on everyone is not free trade or free markets. That's what he campaigned on along with the hyper anti-immigrant and foreigner stuff. The fact that people who believe in smaller government, free markets and free trade voted for him anyway, isn't because of anything he said he'd do. Those folks just voted against the democrats or they weren't listening to what Trump was actually saying.

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              • Ukrainian authorities want to talk to one Trump's besties, Paul Manafort about a corruption case: http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/17/politi...ine/index.html

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                • Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                  Eh, no, it wasn't. Adding Montenegro to NATO is absurd.
                  Not that I disagree, but let's hear your case against Montenegran inclusion, since you dropped "absurd" on it.
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                  The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                  • Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                    Not that I disagree, but let's hear your case against Montenegran inclusion, since you dropped "absurd" on it.
                    He's a Pat Buchanan isolationist. That's his case.

                    Montenegro has strategic geographical location value for NATO. Russia pushed hard against them joining, to the point that Russian operatives were arrested for planning a coup/assassination of the pro-Western Montenegrin leader.

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                    • Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                      Not that I disagree, but let's hear your case against Montenegran inclusion, since you dropped "absurd" on it.
                      Montenegran is an insignificant country that only spends 1.6% of its nothing of a GDP on defense. Adding this country would just drag more US money into NATO which we would get little or nothing in return. The US already spends way too much on NATO and most of the other countries in NATO haven't been pulling their weight for some time. Anybody that bitches about the amount of money we spend on the defense budget should be against this.

                      On the other hand if you are a 20th century cold war munger like McCain then you might like the idea of adding a little more real estate to the NATO footprint.
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                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                        He's a Pat Buchanan isolationist. That's his case.

                        Montenegro has strategic geographical location value for NATO. Russia pushed hard against them joining, to the point that Russian operatives were arrested for planning a coup/assassination of the pro-Western Montenegrin leader.
                        Yeah, that Russian puppet Flynn was recommending to Drumpf to not to let them join... oh, wait:

                        http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...l-flynn-234697
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                          Montenegran is an insignificant country that only spends 1.6% of its nothing of a GDP on defense. Adding this country would just drag more US money into NATO which we would get little or nothing in return. The US already spends way too much on NATO and most of the other countries in NATO haven't been pulling their weight for some time. Anybody that bitches about the amount of money we spend on the defense budget should be against this.

                          On the other hand if you are a 20th century cold war munger like McCain then you might like the idea of adding a little more real estate to the NATO footprint.
                          What's a war munger? Montenegro's position on the Adriatic coast is important and valuable. Whether you like it or not, Russia is still a huge threat to their neighbors. NATO is effective in restraining them. The narrative that if the US or NATO went away, Russia would turn in to an upstanding citizen is a load of bullshit. NATO is still relevant, and Montenegro deserved to join.
                          Last edited by frank ryan; 03-18-2017, 08:44 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            One of your worst appeals to hypocrisy yet. It is well established that Sanders doesn't make a huge salary like the others on that list. Of course his marginal rate is going to be lower.





                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • I'm easily swayed by FAKE NEWS, but it's starting to feel like this is going to be a bad week for Trump...
                              "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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                              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                                OMG, he's such a hypocrite!
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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