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  • frank ryan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 12278

    #20041
    Originally posted by Moliere View Post

    That’s a link to Wikipedia, not twitter.
    I'm aware it is. It explains what the term means. Thanks.

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    • Maximus
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 6010

      #20042
      Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
      Dare we call it war crimes now? Wait, silly me, we're not at war. But let's call it what it is, illegal:



      Meanwhile, Trump is going to pardon the former Honduran president who was convicted of...conspiring to traffic cocaine into the US. Murder for likely indigent people suspected of running drugs, and a pardon for someone at the very top facilitating smuggling. That is about as immoral as you can get.

      Every single cabinet member and Trump sycophant should be asked repeatedly why it's OK to kill suspects but pardon who's essentially a cartel boss.
      Illegal orders like this are ok and every service member should always obey orders no matter what. Just following orders.

      Or so half the people here think ?

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      • myboynoah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 21719

        #20043
        Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
        Dare we call it war crimes now? Wait, silly me, we're not at war. But let's call it what it is, illegal:



        Meanwhile, Trump is going to pardon the former Honduran president who was convicted of...conspiring to traffic cocaine into the US. Murder for likely indigent people suspected of running drugs, and a pardon for someone at the very top facilitating smuggling. That is about as immoral as you can get.

        Every single cabinet member and Trump sycophant should be asked repeatedly why it's OK to kill suspects but pardon who's essentially a cartel boss.
        It's just disgusting.

        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • frank ryan
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 12278

          #20044
          Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

          It's just disgusting.
          It's all about racism and the great replacement theory. Always has been and it's clearer every day. Read up on what remigration means. It's scary stuff.

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          • Moliere
            One man.....one pie
            • Oct 2009
            • 27807

            #20045
            Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

            That's probably why the curious independents vote for Trump. They just don't read his shit that he obviously wants to share far and wide. At least I hope that charitable explanation is true.
            Maybe, but I didn’t read it because I knew what he was going to say before he said it. I can’t hate the guy any more and vote against anyone that touts his endorsement, so reading his xenophobic drivel is a waste of my time.
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • chrisrenrut
              Strikes and Gutters
              • Jul 2009
              • 2260

              #20046
              Trump is about to invade a foreign country. He has warned that the airspace above Venezuela is closed.

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              • Jeff Lebowski
                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 69491

                #20047
                So much for no more foreign intervention.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • BlueK
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 7150

                  #20048
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  So much for no more foreign intervention.
                  I can't imagine invading Venezuela would be popular with very many Americans, even maga folks

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                  • LVAllen
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 3235

                    #20049
                    Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                    I can't imagine invading Venezuela would be popular with very many Americans, even maga folks
                    Just wait. Sidney Powell will start to reiterate her oft-disproven 2020 BS about how the voting machine software was created in Venezuela, and suddenly MAGA will be criticizing Biden for not invading Venezuela and demanding Trump do so immediately.

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                    • LVAllen
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 3235

                      #20050
                      Just going to leave this here. From the DoD's Law of War:
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                      • frank ryan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12278

                        #20051
                        So we attack already disabled ships and killing survivors at sea is a clear cut war crimes. Hegseth mockingly celebrates this on social media with blood lust.

                        Trump pardons the former leader of Honduras who actually helped bring tons of drugs into the country. We are being led by terrible people and it shouldn't a partisan issue.

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                        • Maximus
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 6010

                          #20052
                          I assume people criticizing the video will realize it became relevant in less than a week

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                          • PaloAltoCougar
                            Semper infra dignitatem
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 16917

                            #20053
                            i get that we don't want a platoon of foot soldiers debating the legality of every order, but I'm curious at what point, if ever, a soldier or airman can rely on a defense of "I was only following orders." Given the current news, would a fighter pilot be justified in disobeying an order to go back and shoot at survivors from the initial attack that killed most of their compatriots, destroyed the boat, and rendered them "hors de combat." I've seen many WWII movies where the evil enemy goes back and strafes parachuting pilots or sailors in the water, evoking strong feelings of revulsion among the viewers. Should we feel differently about the current case? Should a disobeying pilot be prosecuted or honored?

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                            • falafel
                              loves to talk on things
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 37886

                              #20054
                              Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                              So we attack already disabled ships and killing survivors at sea is a clear cut war crimes. Hegseth mockingly celebrates this on social media with blood lust.

                              Trump pardons the former leader of Honduras who actually helped bring tons of drugs into the country. We are being led by terrible people and it shouldn't a partisan issue.
                              There may be a question as to whether the Laws of War apply outside of declared wars. I'm not saying this makes it better, but it may impact how this issue is reviewed. Regardless, this is yet another issue that Republicans are starting to split with the administration on.

                              The pardoning of the Honduran president who said he would force cocaine up the Americans' noses until they died, who prosecuted by none other than Emil Bove and convicted by a U.S. jury and sentenced to 45 years, after only 1 year in prison, in another issue that Republicans are breaking with the President on.

                              his is from the DOJ's press release last year:

                              The former president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernández, 55, also known as JOH, was sentenced today to 540 months in prison and 60 months of supervised release for cocaine importation and related weapons offenses. The former two-term president was in office until weeks before his extradition to the United States in April 2022. Hernández was convicted on March 8 following a three-week jury trial.
                              ...
                              According to court documents, from at least in or about 2004, up to and including in or about 2022, Hernández, the former two-term president of Honduras and former president of the Honduran National Congress, was at the center of one of the largest and most violent drug-trafficking conspiracies in the world. During his political career, Hernández abused his powerful positions and authority in Honduras to facilitate the importation of over 400 tons of cocaine into the U.S. Hernández’s co-conspirators were armed with machine guns and destructive devices, including AK-47s, AR-15s, and grenade launchers, which they used to protect their massive cocaine loads as they transited across Honduras on their way to the United States, protect the money they made from the eventual sale of this cocaine, and guard their drug-trafficking territory from rivals. Hernández received millions of dollars of drug money from some of the largest and most violent drug-trafficking organizations in Honduras, Mexico, and elsewhere, and used those bribes to fuel his rise in Honduran politics. In turn, as Hernández rose to power in Honduras, he provided increased support and protection for his co-conspirators, allowing them to move mountains of cocaine, commit acts of violence and murder, and help turn Honduras into one of the most dangerous countries in the world.
                              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                              Dig your own grave, and save!

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                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Northwestcoug
                                Cocked and Loaded
                                • May 2011
                                • 17932

                                #20055
                                Originally posted by falafel View Post

                                The pardoning of the Honduran president who said he would force cocaine up the Americans' noses until they died, who prosecuted by none other than Emil Bove and convicted by a U.S. jury and sentenced to 45 years, after only 1 year in prison, in another issue that Republicans are breaking with the President on.

                                his is from the DOJ's press release last year:



                                https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa...son-conspiring
                                It is depressingly hilarious that both Trump and his press secretary are now running with the 'correcting Biden's lawfare' with this pardon. Do his people even fact check before they blindly agree with whatever bullshit he comes up with?
                                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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