President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[tooblue]

It means find them and charge them if they have violated the law. Even if there is nothing actionable, it would still be worth knowing what led to the tragedy. I guarantee that the FBI and Utah authorities have the search warrants and are combing through everything.

So, regardless if "them/they" have done anything "actionable," the authorities should act? That's actually illegal—in other words what you are advocating is illegal actions by authorities.

Again, talk about nonsense.

[frank ryan]

The move has been and will continue to be to create a panic about dangerous unspecified left-wing ideology.

One of the influencers in Trump's orbit, who also helped organize the Unite the Right, wrote an entire book that made the case that leftists shouldn't be treated as people and can be dealt with harshly. That is Jack Posebiec, who also runs the End Wokeness twitter account.

[USUC]

This administration is just so terrible on so many levels.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Pam Bondi is an embarrassment

[BlueK]

What does this have to do with what I wrote?

Also, what First Amendment rights are being taken away? From the looks at it, the people getting canned used their freedom of speech but didn't take into account that their employer doesn't want to employ an ass-hat. I have yet to see evidence of anyone getting canned because they disagreed with Charlie Kirk. They are getting canned because they are celebrating his death.

Yes, private business can act based on what is good or bad for the image of their business. I'm not talking about that.

What about government employees? There are reports of the dept of defense looking at social media posts of military personnel and acting/moving to discipline based on that. That would be a serious constitutional issue because it's the government doing it.

Also, when the administration starts making nebulous threats against opposition organizations like democrat leaning groups with zero evidence of illegal activity, yes, that is a huge First Amendment issue.

[Shaka]

So, regardless if "them/they" have done anything "actionable," the authorities should act? That's actually illegal—in other words what you are advocating is illegal actions by authorities.

Again, talk about nonsense.

What are you going on about? By act, I mean investigate and then prosecute if they find anything. There's nothing illegal about doing that. It's literally their jobs. It's almost as if you do not want the authorities to dig into this senseless tragedy.

[BlueK]

What are you going on about? By act, I mean investigate and then prosecute if they find anything. There's nothing illegal about doing that. It's literally their jobs. It's almost as if you do not want the authorities to dig into this senseless tragedy.

They're just trying to sound scary right now and playing PR with their own base. To get the warrants they have to show the judge at least some evidence. In typical Trump fashion they will just say they have it but will never actually show it to a judge because they don't have it. There is no actual conspiracy. I doubt when it comes down to it that the shooter even has a coherent ideology that fits neatly on the typical left-right spectrum. Crazy people usually don't. And no, he wasn't sent by George Soros, but mentioning his name must be good for fundraising. And to be especially appealing to one segment of the base they are always sure to mention the evil Jewish guy way more than any other rich Democrat contributors.

[Shaka]

They're just trying to sound scary right now and playing PR with their own base. To get the warrants they have to show the judge at least some evidence. In typical Trump fashion they will just say they have it but will never actually show it to a judge because they don't have it. There is no actual conspiracy. I doubt when it comes down to it that the shooter even has a coherent ideology that fits neatly on the typical left-right spectrum. Crazy people usually don't. And no, he wasn't sent by George Soros, but mentioning his name must be good for fundraising. And to be especially appealing to one segment of the base they are always sure to mention the evil Jewish guy way more than any other rich Democrat contributors.

So, no investigation beyond Robinson and Twiggs should occur?

[tooblue]

What are you going on about? By act, I mean investigate and then prosecute if they find anything. There's nothing illegal about doing that. It's literally their jobs. It's almost as if you do not want the authorities to dig into this senseless tragedy.

You wrote: "Even if there is nothing actionable." This isn't complicated. No one is saying this should not be investigated, but good heavens the rule of reasonable grounds apply. Officials can't merely have a feeling or suspicion. There must be a belief that can be supported by reliable, objective information. That is literally their jobs—not just make sh** up because Shaka wants justice.

[Shaka]

You wrote: "Even if there is nothing actionable." This isn't complicated. No one is saying this should not be investigated, but good heavens the rule of reasonable grounds apply. Officials can't merely have a feeling or suspicion. There must be a belief that can be supported by reliable, objective information. That is literally their jobs—not just make sh** up because Shaka wants justice.

You're completely misrepresenting what I wrote. How far are you going to go in your quest to be offended?

[tooblue]

You're completely misrepresenting what I wrote. How far are you going to go in your quest to be offended?

I wrote exactly what you wrote—there is no misrepresentation. Anything "actionable" would have to be supported first by reasonable grounds. I am not offended.

[Shaka]

I wrote exactly what you wrote—there is no misrepresentation. Anything "actionable" would have to be supported first by reasonable grounds. I am not offended.

You should work it because you're stretching.

[BlueK]

So, no investigation beyond Robinson and Twiggs should occur?

Follow the evidence is good. But thats not really what Trump is talking about. He's talking in broad strokes that amounts to nothing more than using government power to harass those groups who disagree with him.

[tooblue]

You should work it because you're stretching.

Stretch what lol ... you wrote what you wrote and it lacks merit. There's no nuance—we just gotta root 'em out at all costs right!

[Northwestcoug]

Pam Bondi is an embarrassment

An embarrassment? I think you meant to say genius. All her ascendancy to the US AG took was accepting a measly 25K from Trump to her PAC for dropping the case against Trump University. That's quite the return on investment.