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  • frank ryan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 12257

    #18091
    Originally posted by Maximus View Post
    Qatar donates plane to potus

    Odds qatar is getting some benefit from this mid east trip

    And

    Yeah Mitt's endorsement of Pondi isn't aging well

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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69416

      #18092
      Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

      Yeah Mitt's endorsement of Pondi isn't aging well
      Lol. Yeah, let's focus on Mitt in the middle of this nightmare. Good call.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • frank ryan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 12257

        #18093
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

        Lol. Yeah, let's focus on Mitt in the middle of this nightmare. Good call.
        Jeff, if you've read my posts you'd know I've been pretty effusive and consistent in my praise of Mitt. And this doesn't change my overall feeling about him. Chill. No need to come to Mitt's defense here. I'm not one who has underplayed this nightmare.

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        • Northwestcoug
          Cocked and Loaded
          • May 2011
          • 17890

          #18094
          If Trump was just trolling the GOP trying to find out just how unethical he could be and still get their support, would the Qatar jet gift news read any differently?

          Should be entertaining to see just how spineless the supposedly very serious about national security and drain the swamp GOP are about this latest scandal. You know the one of about a dozen that would sink any other president in normal times.
          "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
          "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
          - SeattleUte

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          • Maximus
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 5999

            #18095
            My support for trump would go up 100x if he supported this

            https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...normalization/


            During US President Donald Trump’s visit to Saudi Arabia later this week, Riyadh will try to get him onboard a regional package deal that includes forming a demilitarized Palestinian state, ending the war in Gaza while dismantling Hamas, and normalization of ties between Israel and Arab countries, according to the Kan public broadcaster.
            The outlet cites an unnamed official in the Saudi royal family as saying there is much optimism in Riyadh that Trump will be persuaded to support such a deal.

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            • Moliere
              One man.....one pie
              • Oct 2009
              • 27767

              #18096
              Originally posted by Maximus View Post
              My support for trump would go up 100x if he supported this

              https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...normalization/


              100 times 0 is still zero
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Moliere
                One man.....one pie
                • Oct 2009
                • 27767

                #18097
                With the pause in the tariff war with China, the stock market will get a nice pop today. The market is still down about 6.7% compared to where it was on inauguration day and down 1.1% since election day. I doubt we'll get a 6% pop in the market but we are inching back to where we started out...with both the market and the tariffs. If things would have just ridden out as normal we'd be in a much better spot.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • All-American
                  Right, as Usual
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 15637

                  #18098
                  Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  With the pause in the tariff war with China, the stock market will get a nice pop today. The market is still down about 6.7% compared to where it was on inauguration day and down 1.1% since election day. I doubt we'll get a 6% pop in the market but we are inching back to where we started out...with both the market and the tariffs. If things would have just ridden out as normal we'd be in a much better spot.
                  When Trump backs off his ideas, the market goes up. When he doubles down, it goes down. Huh.
                  τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                  • Omaha 680
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 11164

                    #18099
                    Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                    If Trump was just trolling the GOP trying to find out just how unethical he could be and still get their support, would the Qatar jet gift news read any differently?

                    Should be entertaining to see just how spineless the supposedly very serious about national security and drain the swamp GOP are about this latest scandal. You know the one of about a dozen that would sink any other president in normal times.
                    The jet gift is so gross. Anyone defending it is gross. If the U.S. government were keeping it, I would still hate it but MAYBE I could hold my nose and get on board with it. But transferring it to the Trump Library at the expense of the USAF? GTFO.

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                    • RC Vikings
                      Known Heterosexual
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 8788

                      #18100
                      Originally posted by All-American View Post

                      When Trump backs off his ideas, the market goes up. When he doubles down, it goes down. Huh.
                      For some reason the Trumpers don't see the correlation, I got a text today from a close friend and a Trump supporter telling me about the China/U.S. deal and how the market popped because of it. I try to stay away from politics with him but told him the market went up because he backed off the plan and put it on hold, he never responded to that. Part of the problem is Fox News and even Fox Business spew nothing but stuff that would appeal to their core and he is one of their core. He challenged me to watch Fox Business because I wouldn't go near Fox News and I told him to watch CNBC, which is almost all business and they spread it around with guest like Speaker Johnson. I tried an episode of Kudlow and it was terrible, nothing but Trump propaganda and he should know better with his background. I swear it's rotting people brains.

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                      • frank ryan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12257

                        #18101
                        Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post

                        For some reason the Trumpers don't see the correlation, I got a text today from a close friend and a Trump supporter telling me about the China/U.S. deal and how the market popped because of it. I try to stay away from politics with him but told him the market went up because he backed off the plan and put it on hold, he never responded to that. Part of the problem is Fox News and even Fox Business spew nothing but stuff that would appeal to their core and he is one of their core. He challenged me to watch Fox Business because I wouldn't go near Fox News and I told him to watch CNBC, which is almost all business and they spread it around with guest like Speaker Johnson. I tried an episode of Kudlow and it was terrible, nothing but Trump propaganda and he should know better with his background. I swear it's rotting people brains.
                        The cult of personality phenomenon is a powerful intoxicant

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                        • Moliere
                          One man.....one pie
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 27767

                          #18102
                          I don’t quite follow the issue with the 747 being given by Qatar. Is it because it’s a gift or is the issue because Qatar is a state that basically allows modern day slavery? Hasn’t the US wanted new planes for Air Force One for a long time?

                          Im sure there’s good reason to be against the gift but I’m admitting to my ignorance here.
                          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                          • LVAllen
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 3216

                            #18103
                            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                            I don’t quite follow the issue with the 747 being given by Qatar. Is it because it’s a gift or is the issue because Qatar is a state that basically allows modern day slavery? Hasn’t the US wanted new planes for Air Force One for a long time?

                            Im sure there’s good reason to be against the gift but I’m admitting to my ignorance here.
                            Boeing is currently under contract to construct two new VC-25B (miliary versions of the 747-8). This is $3.9 billion we've already contracted to pay. The program has had its issues. The current estimated delivery is 2029, although recent developments have suggested a delivery date of 2027 instead.

                            Since AF1 isn't just a 747 with some perks, the Qatari 747 would need to be essentially stripped down and rebuilt to the Air Force's requirements. That takes money. Money that hasn't been allocated by Congress. Seems like a big deal there. Then there's the whole "transferred to the Trump Presidential Library before the end of his term" nonsense.

                            So Trump wants a $300M jet. The jet will then be remodeled to make it suitable for its purpose, assuming it can be. The jet will then be transferred to his control (technically, the National Archives control, but I'll bet you anything that he'll call the jet a personal paper). So no other president will use this jet.

                            Then there are the security concerns. All the program engineers working on the Boeing AF1 have had Yankee White clearance, higher than TS/SCI. Who worked on the construction of the Qatari airframe? What things might be hidden there?

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69416

                              #18104
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • chrisrenrut
                                Strikes and Gutters
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 2255

                                #18105
                                Talk about flooding the zone. It’s too much to keep up with. Any one of these things would be the end of any other presidency.

                                The racism isn’t so subtle anymore. No more refugees from Afghanistan, Venezuela, Cuba. But for white South Africans, Trump sends a charter jet to bring them, and expedites their processing.

                                Donald Trump says they are victims of "racial discrimination", which is strongly denied by South Africa.

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