The 2020 Presidential Election Primary Thread

[CardiacCoug]

Trump is a joke. He is dangerous because he is incompetent and has no morals/principles, no intellectual curiosity, and very low aptitude for understanding information pertinent to the job.

Bernie is dangerous because he’s an ideologue and will push his socialist agenda regardless of how much suffering it causes.

I can’t believe it might come down to these two. Even worse choices than in 2016!

[All-American]

Trump is a joke. He is dangerous because he is incompetent and has no morals/principles, no intellectual curiosity, and very low aptitude for understanding information pertinent to the job.

That’s what I like best about him. So much of his job he doesn’t care about doing, and so leaves others to do it, some of whom are moderately sane. It’s the stuff he cares about that scares me.

Bernie is even scarier because he cares about more stuff.

[Uncle Ted]

I'm on the Bernie train now. Bernie/Tulsi 2020! Bernie then croaks after a year; Tulsi becomes president. Best outcome.

LOL... I wonder if Bernie will sue Hillary too:

'Retribution by lying': Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for calling her a Russian asset

2020 Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard filed a scathing legal complaint against Hillary Clinton, accusing her party's 2016 presidential nominee of "lying, publicly and loudly" by calling her a Russian asset.

“Tulsi Gabbard is running for president of the United States, a position Clinton has long coveted, but has not been able to attain,” lawyers for Gabbard said in the complaint. “In October 2019 — whether out of personal animus, political enmity, or fear of real change within a political party Clinton and her allies have long dominated — Clinton lied about her perceived rival Tulsi Gabbard.”

They continued: “In short, Clinton got exactly what she wanted by lying about Tulsi — she harmed her political and personal rival’s reputation and ongoing presidential campaign, and started a damaging whisper campaign based on baseless, but vicious, untruths.”

The lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, said it aims to hold Clinton and other "political elites" accountable “for distorting the truth in the middle of a critical presidential election.” Gabbard is seeking $50 million in damages and an injunction banning the further publication of Clinton’s statements.

Gabbard, who supported Clinton's Democratic primary rival Bernie Sanders during the 2016 primaries, accused the former secretary of state of being "a cutthroat politician" who acted out of "malicious intent."
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...n-asset-remark

Don't be surprised if Gabbard "kills herself".

[Uncle Ted]

LOL... I wonder if Bernie will sue Hillary too:


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...n-asset-remark

Don't be surprised if Gabbard "kills herself".

LOL...

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[Jeff Lebowski]

Lol.

[myboynoah]

Lol.

Don't laugh. She could be POTUS one day.

[frank ryan]

lol, Gabbard is suing Clinton over hurt feelings. The lawsuit refers to Clinton as Clinton but refers to Gabbard as Tulsi.

Souns like a Trump move.

[Uncle Ted]

lol, Gabbard is suing Clinton over hurt feelings. The lawsuit refers to Clinton as Clinton but refers to Gabbard as Tulsi.

Souns like a Trump move.

I think Gabbard has a good case... so does Clinton, it seems. She has already walked back her Bernie comment on twitter.

[The_Tick]

lol, Gabbard is suing Clinton over hurt feelings. The lawsuit refers to Clinton as Clinton but refers to Gabbard as Tulsi.

Souns like a Trump move.

Gabbard is the only Dem I would vote for.

[falafel]

lol, Gabbard is suing Clinton over hurt feelings. The lawsuit refers to Clinton as Clinton but refers to Gabbard as Tulsi.

Souns like a Trump move.

You don't really believe that, do you? That this is only about "hurt feelings"?

[BlueK]

You don't really believe that, do you? That this is only about "hurt feelings"?

the standard for libel is pretty high in this case because Gabbard as a member of Congress qualifies as a public official. She'd have to prove that Clinton knows for a fact Gabbard is not a Russian asset but said she was anyway. I don't know how you really prove what's in Clinton's head. Then she'd have to show she was damaged by it, which would also be hard to prove since it's getting her favorable publicity on the right and gigs on Fox news.

[Jeff Lebowski]

This is a really dumb lawsuit.

I hope she wins anyway.

[falafel]

the standard for libel is pretty high in this case because Gabbard as a member of Congress qualifies as a public official. She'd have to prove that Clinton knows for a fact Gabbard is not a Russian asset but said she was anyway. I don't know how you really prove what's in Clinton's head. Then she'd have to show she was damaged by it, which would also be hard to prove since it's getting her favorable publicity on the right and gigs on Fox news.

You just do a google search?

The standard isn't the point here - its the message sent by Clinton and the damage it does to Gabbard's campaign. Gabbard isn't hoping to win here, she's hoping to show that she's serious about not being bullied by the Clintons and the democratic machine.

[Pelado]

Damn, I was hoping this line was actually included in the complaint:

5. Tulsi Gabbard is a natural person who is a citizen and domiciliary of the State of Hawaii. She has never experienced, does not currently experience, and does not expect to experience, thoughts of suicide.

https://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/3...y-clinton.html

[Jeff Lebowski]

Damn, I was hoping this line was actually included in the complaint:



https://hoax-alert.leadstories.com/3...y-clinton.html

Why do you have to ruin the fun for us like that?