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  • Zero Hedge? Is that a go-to media source for you? They're as bad as RT.

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    • Bernie made over $2.79 million since 2016. Yikes, talk about a hypocrite. One might suspect he’s running again to earn more money.

      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ikely-than-not

        “The advantage of first term incumbency and the relatively strong economic performance ahead of the presidential election suggest that President Trump is more likely to win a second term than the eventual Democratic candidate is to defeat him,” said Phillips and Blake.

        Goldman Sachs currently predicts the U.S. economy will grow 2.5 percent this year and 2.3 percent in 2020, a pace that will be enough to push unemployment down to 3.3 percent next year from 3.7 percent this year.

        Historically, Phillips and Taylor found variables such as employment and income are better indicators of an election result than market-based forces such as equity or oil prices. The performance of the economy in the second quarter of the election year is often a strong guide to the result, they said.
        I can see heads exploding already should this happen.

        Honestly, all the Dems have to do is nominate someone - ANYONE - who seems just a little moderate and not crazy, and they are in. But somehow I just can't see them not tripping themselves up and messing this up somehow.

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        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
          Bernie made over $2.79 million since 2016. Yikes, talk about a hypocrite. One might suspect he’s running again to earn more money.

          Hypocrite? I'm sure he is pumping all that money back into helping people in need, like running homeless shelters and such.
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
            Hypocrite? I'm sure he is pumping all that money back into helping people in need, like running homeless shelters and such.
            Uh, Bernie has never said he can't earn money. He's not Karl Marx. He's a Western European style social democrat.

            I think the guy is running because he believes in his ideas. It's nice that he released his tax returns.
            Last edited by frank ryan; 04-16-2019, 04:17 PM.

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            • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
              Uh, Bernie has never said he can't earn money. He's not Karl Marx. He's a Western European style social democrat.

              I think the guy is running because he believes in his ideas. It's nice that he released his tax returns.
              He does say you shouldn't earn too much money, and that if you earn more you should be willing to give a greater share of it to the government for redistribution. But it appears the threshold is, as is most often the case with people taking these positions, somewhere above his own income level.
              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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              • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                Uh, Bernie has never said he can't earn money. He's not Karl Marx. He's a Western European style social democrat.

                I think the guy is running because he believes in his ideas. It's nice that he released his tax returns.
                Which reminds me: why won't Trump release his taxes? Is it because of-course-everything-is-on-the-up-and-up-and-mind-your-own-business? I'm sure that must be it...
                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                  Which reminds me: why won't Trump release his taxes? Is it because of-course-everything-is-on-the-up-and-up-and-mind-your-own-business? I'm sure that must be it...
                  One thing we know for sure, running for president has been very lucrative for Bernie. I can see why he does it.

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                  • Originally posted by wapiti View Post
                    One thing we know for sure, running for president has been very lucrative for Bernie. I can see why he does it.
                    Maybe that’s why there are 20 or more currently in the race. It’s worse than the gop on the last go around.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • Originally posted by wapiti View Post
                      One thing we know for sure, running for president has been very lucrative for Bernie. I can see why he does it.
                      It's certainly easier than working for a living.
                      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                      • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                        Maybe that’s why there are 20 or more currently in the race. It’s worse than the gop on the last go around.
                        Gee I wonder why so many sharks in the water?
                        "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                          Maybe that’s why there are 20 or more currently in the race. It’s worse than the gop on the last go around.
                          The reason these Dems view Trump as vulnerable is because they live in a bubble.

                          Trump is very likely to win, no? The economy is great. His base is rock solid in support of him. Trump is bulletproof in that it’s not like a gaffe or scandal can hurt him more than the gaffes and scandals that have already happened.

                          I think the odds of Trump winning are something like 70%. SJBH.

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                          • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                            Which reminds me: why won't Trump release his taxes? Is it because of-course-everything-is-on-the-up-and-up-and-mind-your-own-business? I'm sure that must be it...
                            Because Drumpf ain't stoopid like Beto...

                            Beto O’Rourke underpaid taxes in 2013, 2014

                            Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke and his wife, Amy, appear to have underpaid their taxes for two years, according to a new report.


                            The couple appear to have underpaid their 2013 and 2014 taxes by more than $4,000 because they made a mistake in the way they reported their medical expenses, according to an accountant who looked over the returns for the Wall Street Journal.


                            O’Rourke and his wife, who released their tax returns Monday, took medical expense deductions that were only permitted for medical and dental expenses above 10% of income for people their age. Their taxable income would have increased had they not taken nearly $16,000 in deductions.
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                            https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...s-in-2013-2014
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                              The reason these Dems view Trump as vulnerable is because they live in a bubble.

                              Trump is very likely to win, no? The economy is great. His base is rock solid in support of him. Trump is bulletproof in that it’s not like a gaffe or scandal can hurt him more than the gaffes and scandals that have already happened.

                              I think the odds of Trump winning are something like 70%. SJBH.
                              Given the electoral system we have, it's not that hard to figure out that it probably depends on about three states right now, which are the same ones that mattered last time. In PA, Trump's numbers are not good. He also trails in WI and is neck and neck with most of the possible Dem candidates in MI. He needs all three if the dems can hold onto the same states they got last time. There is a lot of time left, but I wouldn't say either side has it in the bag right now and both sides have time to screw it up. Those who like Trump should hope he doesn't make good on his threat to close the border because that would seriously mess with the economy in a bad way.
                              Last edited by BlueK; 04-17-2019, 08:02 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                                Because Drumpf ain't stoopid like Beto...
                                That must be it! Thanks for your honest response!
                                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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