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  • wuapinmon
    Soul Plumber
    • Dec 2008
    • 30711

    #466
    Originally posted by Topper
    Lol.

    Wuap's a pinko.
    I'm not on the list, but I wish I were! I use the Socratic Method too much to make it.
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • Topper
      Pre-Historic Man
      • Nov 2011
      • 11764

      #467
      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
      I'm not on the list, but I wish I were! I use the Socratic Method too much to make it.
      In Spanish? How does one teach language acquisition using the Socratic method? Or are you speaking of literature and eliciting opinions about passages read?
      "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

      Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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      • wuapinmon
        Soul Plumber
        • Dec 2008
        • 30711

        #468
        Originally posted by Topper View Post
        In Spanish? How does one teach language acquisition using the Socratic method? Or are you speaking of literature and eliciting opinions about passages read?
        Lit and culture classes. Language is via communicative approach (The 5 C's) https://www.actfl.org/sites/default/...gLanguages.pdf
        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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        • Katy Lied
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 9435

          #469
          language is pure socratic

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          • Goatnapper'96
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 10920

            #470
            Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
            Lit and culture classes. Language is via communicative approach (The 5 C's) https://www.actfl.org/sites/default/...gLanguages.pdf
            I took Russian at West Point 25 years ago and I still have memorized:

            "Straus-veet-chya! Cock vas savoot? Men-ya savoot 'MIKA' (Seriously that was the Gawdless Commie Bolshivek name Major Something or Another gave me- a future 2 time All American basketball player at the BYU!) Mo-ya familia 'Veelson.' Say-chas ya kersant vest pointchya tam ya uchoo ruskee yazeek uzshet goat."

            Obviously my keyboard does not have the cyrillic alphabet, but when I went to Bosnia in '98, 6 years after taking Russian I could still read the cyrillic alphabet.

            So what method did he use? I remember getting to class fatigued by making the long walk from Thayer Hall to Washington Hall and up 6 flights of stairs (Elevators only authorized for Officers and those on profile due to some type of injury) in the 10 minutes we had between class and spending the first 15 minutes catching my breath only to then move into some zone of boredom and my memory gets foggy after that.
            Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
            -General George S. Patton

            I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
            -DOCTOR Wuap

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            • HBCoug
              Peanut Gallery Asshat
              • Dec 2008
              • 2082

              #471
              Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
              I took Russian at West Point 25 years ago and I still have memorized:

              "Straus-veet-chya! Cock vas savoot? Men-ya savoot 'MIKA' (Seriously that was the Gawdless Commie Bolshivek name Major Something or Another gave me- a future 2 time All American basketball player at the BYU!) Mo-ya familia 'Veelson.' Say-chas ya kersant vest pointchya tam ya uchoo ruskee yazeek uzshet goat."

              Obviously my keyboard does not have the cyrillic alphabet, but when I went to Bosnia in '98, 6 years after taking Russian I could still read the cyrillic alphabet.

              So what method did he use? I remember getting to class fatigued by making the long walk from Thayer Hall to Washington Hall and up 6 flights of stairs (Elevators only authorized for Officers and those on profile due to some type of injury) in the 10 minutes we had between class and spending the first 15 minutes catching my breath only to then move into some zone of boredom and my memory gets foggy after that.
              No, dude, that's the Cyrillic method.

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              • Applejack
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3812

                #472
                Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                Keeping the conservative college kiddies safe...


                http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...in-database-b/

                BYU doesn't make the list?
                Seems like this list is not very reliable. Here is the entry for the Boise State Professor:

                Dr. Greg Hampikian is a Professor of Biological Studies at Boise State University. In his editorial entitled “When May I Shoot a Student?”, Hampikian writes about how the library would make a good shooting range, and asks when he can fire a warning shot in class when students try to correct his equation.
                That doesn't seem like a good liberal to me, but maybe the stereotypes have changed now that Trump is in charge.

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                • Uncle Ted
                  The Big 12 money shot.
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 28853

                  #473
                  Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                  Seems like this list is not very reliable. Here is the entry for the Boise State Professor:



                  That doesn't seem like a good liberal to me, but maybe the stereotypes have changed now that Trump is in charge.
                  Also, for Idaho he is liberal... why the hell would he fire warning shots?
                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                  "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • wuapinmon
                    Soul Plumber
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 30711

                    #474
                    Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                    language is pure socratic
                    Well, there's less room for dialectic about whether their conjugation is correct or not.

                    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                    I took Russian at West Point 25 years ago and I still have memorized:

                    "Straus-veet-chya! Cock vas savoot? Men-ya savoot 'MIKA' (Seriously that was the Gawdless Commie Bolshivek name Major Something or Another gave me- a future 2 time All American basketball player at the BYU!) Mo-ya familia 'Veelson.' Say-chas ya kersant vest pointchya tam ya uchoo ruskee yazeek uzshet goat."

                    Obviously my keyboard does not have the cyrillic alphabet, but when I went to Bosnia in '98, 6 years after taking Russian I could still read the cyrillic alphabet.

                    So what method did he use? I remember getting to class fatigued by making the long walk from Thayer Hall to Washington Hall and up 6 flights of stairs (Elevators only authorized for Officers and those on profile due to some type of injury) in the 10 minutes we had between class and spending the first 15 minutes catching my breath only to then move into some zone of boredom and my memory gets foggy after that.
                    25 years ago at West Point? Well, from what I've read about the military and language acquisition, (the late Alan Meredith worked a lot with the Army at the MTC and I took a class from him) they were fairly progressive in their pedagogy, though they tended to favor the Audio-Lingual Method and Total Physical Response method. For battlefield and in-country languages, the military favors aural comprehension and speaking ability over reading comprehension and writing ability. For COMINT, they want full fluency, and that requires a communicative approach that puts things in context, unless you can afford to immerse someone in the target language for a year or two.
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • Uncle Ted
                      The Big 12 money shot.
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 28853

                      #475
                      It seems that some of these pinkos are in denial about being a leftist...

                      ‘I Will Not Shut Up. America Is Still Worth Fighting For.’

                      So, yes, I have the dubious honor of being on the “Professor Watchlist”** — a list published recently by a young white nationalist movement provocateur who knew that such a list would get media traction because of Sen. McCarthy’s attacks on academics during the Red Scare. I made the list not because of complaints about my teaching, but because of my public writing about politics.

                      It is ironic that this list would label me “leftist.” In fact, in my public life, I do not identify with a political party, and I work with politicians on both sides of the aisle. I also teach the history of American conservative beliefs, as well as those of liberalism. I believe that the nation needs both the Democratic and the Republican parties to be strong and healthy.

                      It is even more ironic that the list would label me “anti-American.” In fact, I do what I do — all the teaching, writing, speeches and media — because I love America. I am staunchly committed to the principle of human self-determination, and have come to believe that American democracy is the form of government that comes closest to bringing that principle to reality. This nation is not perfect — far from it — but when it is at its best, it has more potential for people of all genders, races and ethnicities to create their own destinies than any other governmental system. I work to teach people about that system, its great triumphs and also its hideous failures. We must learn from the past because the miracle of America is that it is always reinventing itself, giving us the potential to remake it, better, every day.
                      [...]
                      A professor included on the recently published "Watchlist" that calls out 200 American educators for being leftist radicals reflects on her "dubious honor."


                      I am not sure why she is so bent out of shape being on a stupid list... and why Wuap is upset for not being on it.
                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • wuapinmon
                        Soul Plumber
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 30711

                        #476
                        Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                        It seems that some of these pinkos are in denial about being a leftist...


                        A professor included on the recently published "Watchlist" that calls out 200 American educators for being leftist radicals reflects on her "dubious honor."


                        I am not sure why she is so bent out of shape being on a stupid list... and why Wuap is upset for not being on it.
                        P-list envy.
                        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                        • imanihonjin
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 3772

                          #477
                          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                          It seems that some of these pinkos are in denial about being a leftist...


                          A professor included on the recently published "Watchlist" that calls out 200 American educators for being leftist radicals reflects on her "dubious honor."


                          I am not sure why she is so bent out of shape being on a stupid list... and why Wuap is upset for not being on it.
                          She's right, she doesn't sound like a leftist at all.

                          For the last several years, as I took on a more and more public role, I have focused on the present, hammering on the idea that the ideologically driven movement conservatives who have taken over the nation through the Republican Party are not real Republicans. They are a cabal concentrating wealth and power into a ruling class that is crushing the rest of us. I truly believe that most Americans want not this extraordinary upward redistribution of wealth and power, but rather the same sort of government known in the 1950s as the “liberal consensus,” established by FDR and Eisenhower, that regulates business, maintains national infrastructure and provides a basic social safety net, while still leaving ample room for private enterprise and the innovation it sparks.

                          That the only way movement conservatives have managed to stay in power is to game the system through gerrymandering and voter suppression, hatred and now the intimidation of people like me says that even they know they are in danger of losing control of the country. As a friend of mine says, a dying mule kicks the hardest.

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                          • Nakoma
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 571

                            #478
                            This should be an article in the Onion.

                            Last semester was honestly the worst semester I’ve had at Penn so far. And all because of one thing: the white professors I’ve had at Penn.

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                            • Topper
                              Pre-Historic Man
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 11764

                              #479
                              Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
                              This should be an article in the Onion.

                              http://www.thedp.com/article/2017/01...enn-professors
                              Very odd.
                              "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                              Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                              • falafel
                                loves to talk on things
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 37899

                                #480
                                Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
                                This should be an article in the Onion.

                                http://www.thedp.com/article/2017/01...enn-professors
                                I stopped going to his class for a month. With different emotions going through my head from not only this class but from the Trump election, I did not want to step foot into another white space until I made sure that my mental health was restored.

                                These are the types of things that happen when white teachers do not want to acknowledge their privileges; they can psychologically hurt their students. It is not enough to be aware of your privilege. It is also not enough to be a nice person. Your niceness does not mean that you are not capable of contributing to racial systems of oppression.

                                It is not enough that you are sorry for the injustices caused by your people. It is not enough that you read one article on the Black Lives Matter movement because your black friend recommended it to you. It is not enough that you gave your black students extensions on their papers because Trump got elected.

                                The truth is, you as a single person cannot make up for the horrific things that white people have done to us throughout human history. But that does not mean that you do not have the power to stop yourself from oppressing the students that you teach every day.
                                If all the things he listed above are "not enough," what the hell does he want his professors to do? He complains incessantly about how he's being (vaguely) harmed, yet offers no solutions whatsoever.
                                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                                Dig your own grave, and save!

                                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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