You are warned, Hallelujah

[RobinFinderson]

North Korea... now there is a country that handles its 'illegals' with an iron fist.

[JohnnyLingo]

I'm all set to make fun of Al Gore here, but first I need some help.

Does Al Gore have any experience with North Korea? Does he speak Korean or something? Did he spend a lot of time there as VP?

[Indy Coug]

I'm all set to make fun of Al Gore here, but first I need some help.

Does Al Gore have any experience with North Korea? Does he speak Korean or something? Did he spend a lot of time there as VP?

He and Kim Jong Il attended the same comedy improv class in Siberia in the late 60s.

[wuapinmon]

I think you should say some Americans. I know people who refuse to have jobs done if they know the company providing the service hire undocumenteds. They do so even knowing they could get the service cheaper.

I know, I know. They do that because they are racists and not because they believe in obeying the law.

I respect their right to boycott people who are, no matter how wrong-headed it is, breaking the law of the land. I almost appreciate what they're trying to do. I do not view them as racist.....you on the other hand, you know why I called you that, and if you're not ever going to drop it, well, I can't help you, but the little defensive mary-jane act you've been pulling ever since is getting really old. Do I think you're a racist, probably not.....do I think you have lingering prejudices that you try to pass off as enlightened? yes. Should I have called you a racist....no. Do I take it back....maybe......do I agree with your politics......no way.......do you have the right to feel the way you do.....of course.....should you expect to get called on it for saying something stupid in this forum and then feigning innocence while hiding behind the ethnicity of your granddaughter as 'proof' that you're 'cool' with hispanics?....yes.

[wuapinmon]

He and Kim Jong Il attended the same comedy improv class in Siberia in the late 60s.

I like this....not enough to plus one it, but this was decent.

[Indy Coug]

I like this....not enough to plus one it, but this was decent.

Perchance to dream

[byu71]

I respect their right to boycott people who are, no matter how wrong-headed it is, breaking the law of the land. I almost appreciate what they're trying to do. I do not view them as racist.....you on the other hand, you know why I called you that, and if you're not ever going to drop it, well, I can't help you, but the little defensive mary-jane act you've been pulling ever since is getting really old. Do I think you're a racist, probably not.....do I think you have lingering prejudices that you try to pass off as enlightened? yes. Should I have called you a racist....no. Do I take it back....maybe......do I agree with your politics......no way.......do you have the right to feel the way you do.....of course.....should you expect to get called on it for saying something stupid in this forum and then feigning innocence while hiding behind the ethnicity of your granddaughter as 'proof' that you're 'cool' with hispanics?....yes.

That is why I continue to Mary Jane it. You cloud yourself in too many "maybe", "probably", etc. Have the nuts to take a stand. By the way I haven't mentioned you by name. You aren't the only one on here who jumps at the chance to call people names.

Heck, I do it. Here goes. For the most part I really like your posts and I think you are an intelligent person. When it comes to judging people and how they really feel, you have proven often to be a "dumbass", in my opinion.

[TripletDaddy]

That is why I continue to Mary Jane it.

Right on, BYU71.

Legalize It!

[byu71]

Right on, BYU71.

Legalize It!

I don't know if this would suprise you, but I think I could support legalizing some drugs. From what I see, some use of MJ, even in this state is treated the same way as breaking the speed limit or being undocumented. It isn't enforced.

[JohnnyLingo]

I read a couple of the reviews for this book. While I agree with his analysis of what the immigration issue is so tough, what solutions, if any, does he offer?

I am almost finished with Mexifornia.

So far, his solutions for the illegal immigration issue involve the actual assimilation of immigrants and the abandonment of separatist movements like La Raza.

Arguments that Mexican-Americans fail due to racism are ridiculous when you look at immigrant Cubans, Japanese, Koreans, Punjabi and other non-white people and their success.

He argues that Mexican immigrant families of the 1950's and 60's did much better than those of today because by the second generation, the kids spoke perfect English and identified themselves as American. This concept is probably abhorrent to people like Robin.

Interesting read. Thanks to those who pointed it out.

[Hallelujah]

If you make even one mean-spirited or delving-in-stereotypes comment about this story, a pox upon you and your kin to the fifth generation.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/06/07/ari...ef=mpstoryview

Sad that so many lives were lost because of some greedy businessmen and slave traders and the promise of a great life in the US from our politicians.

[Hallelujah]

This is an interesting thread to me. Immigration and the US policy has been a big part of my life the last 2.5 years. It's impacted my family greatly. Here are a few of my thoughts on the topic:

1- A few years before 9/11 the US looked for ways to add jobs to and to stimulate the economy especially in hard hit areas of the country. What happened was several call centers were created and staffed with minimum wage employees who are not given access to the Immigration systems. This creates a lot of bottle necks.

2- USCIS has lost a lot of the local say in things. Everything goes through National clearing houses now. I've worked with two local USICS departments and both of them gave me the same story. National clearing houses are told to stall out the process.

3- Getting a visa to visit let alone to move to the US is expensive and completely up to the person doing the interview. People representing the US in our embassies are an embarrassment. They're rude and my wife was rejected her first time applying. The cost was $100 USD. This is about two weeks of wages for the average Filipino. No reason was given. When she asked why she was ignored and the agent in the glass box just kept asking for the next applicatant. She applied again and again paid the fee. I went with her the second time and she received a visa. Now mind you, we were legally married at the time and had submitted her permanent residency paper work to the USCIS but she was still originally rejected from visiting the US.

4- My wife has now received a Green Card. The total cost of legally obtaining that document not including legal fees was a little over $2000. Obviously this was a need for our family and we were blessed enough to be in position to pay the fees, but how many in third world countries have $2000 and two years to four years of wait time available? The US has turned immigration into a money maker and it is causing a lot of own problems.

5- This is a great country. There but the US doesn't have a patent on talented, hard working, honorable citizens. This country was founded on open arms and opportunity for all. That ship has sailed by and large and it is sad. Now immigrants are looked at as criminals when 100 years ago they were success stories. We've taken the human element out of the decision making. The impact that it has on families goes unspoken by media and politicians for the most part. That is disappointing.

"Immigrants are looked at as criminals"? Yeah, illegal immigrants are looked at as criminals. Get the key phrase.........illegal. Why do people like you equate legal immigrants with illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants don't pay federal and state income tax, but siphon off money we don't have for them to siphon? How in the hell can you justify that?

[Hallelujah]

Right on, BYU71.

Legalize It!

Let's encourage legalizing MJ. That will solve the nation's problems.