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  • Congrats America. You rolled the dice twice on this guy. Oh and congrats to liddle Marco Rubio. You did your part to normalize this. Enjoy your shit sandwich.

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    "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
    "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
    - SeattleUte

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    • I get so angry reading this stuff that I have to avoid it. These are despicable people.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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      • Calling Zelenskyy a dictator is rich when he is silent on Putin. But we'll just have to chill and wait and see if this is a good thing or not.

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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          I get so angry reading this stuff that I have to avoid it. These are despicable people.
          Amen.

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          • Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
            Calling Zelenskyy a dictator is rich when he is silent on Putin. But we'll just have to chill and wait and see if this is a good thing or not.
            Also, You should have worked harder for your guy to get elected. Since you didn't maybe you should take the L and chill for a while to see what shakes out.
            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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            • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
              Trump claims Zelensky started the war. Trump is Putin's lapdog.
              Agreed. That statement was disgusting.
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Bad Trump!

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                • One of the reasons I've liked Zelenskyy was his statement after winning his election, "I really do not want my pictures in your offices, for the President is not an icon, an idol or a portrait. Hang your kids' photos instead, and look at them each time you are making a decision," Can you imagine Trump or Putin making such a statement? Trump is helping Putin more than Zelensky because Trump identifies far more with Putin's autocratic view.

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                  • There is a coherent foreign policy position that pushes Europe to control their own defense (with actual consequences if they dont). But shitting on Ukraine while praising Russia is genuinely awful. And I believe it's only because Zelenski refused to go along with the Biden investigation. I think it's truly only because of his pettiness as opposed to actually believing Zelenski and Ukraine is a dictatorship. But his MAGA fans will believe this is all Ukraine's fault and their minds will never be changed.

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                    • Originally posted by USUC View Post
                      There is a coherent foreign policy position that pushes Europe to control their own defense (with actual consequences if they dont). But shitting on Ukraine while praising Russia is genuinely awful. And I believe it's only because Zelenski refused to go along with the Biden investigation. I think it's truly only because of his pettiness as opposed to actually believing Zelenski and Ukraine is a dictatorship. But his MAGA fans will believe this is all Ukraine's fault and their minds will never be changed.
                      After everything he's said about Ukraine and Zelenski, and the glaring absence of what should have been said about Putin, this really seems to be the most plausible explanation.

                      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                      - SeattleUte

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                      • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                        After everything he's said about Ukraine and Zelenski, and the glaring absence of what should have been said about Putin, this really seems to be the most plausible explanation.
                        Trump has always been in the clink for the Russia. "Russiagate," wasn't made up.

                        Trump admin is pushing for Europe to remove sanctions on Russia

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                        • Euro leaders are starting to speak some sense:
                          https://x.com/BorisJohnson/status/1892174821368201619

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                          • Boris Johnson is your example of European sense, is it?

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                            • Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                              Boris Johnson is your example of European sense, is it?
                              He was the prime minister. His opinion has to count for something.

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                              • Originally posted by USUC View Post
                                There is a coherent foreign policy position that pushes Europe to control their own defense (with actual consequences if they dont). But shitting on Ukraine while praising Russia is genuinely awful. And I believe it's only because Zelenski refused to go along with the Biden investigation. I think it's truly only because of his pettiness as opposed to actually believing Zelenski and Ukraine is a dictatorship. But his MAGA fans will believe this is all Ukraine's fault and their minds will never be changed.
                                Not an effective one. Russian ascendency is all about breaking the trans-Atlantic alliance. Europe has been reliant on the US for defense but it hasn't been out of our good nature. It has served American interests too.

                                If Trump believed Zelensky was a dictator, he'd probably like him more. His animosity started from day 1. It shouldn't be hard to see he is advancing Russia's interests.

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