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It's interesting how this explanation now makes complete sense to 99% of active Mormons, even if it's totally contradictory to other similar scenarios that we allow for children to be baptized.Originally posted by old_gregg View Post"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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What I find troubling is how dishonest it feels. The focus is love and protection for the kids, when I just don't think that's the motivation or what the predominant feelings are likely going to be when it plays out. I don't know how this policy will be applied or how many exceptions there will be. But what it obviously seems like is going to happen is that a kid is going to be attending church and want to be baptized and is not going to be able to. The kid is going to be hurt in this situation.Originally posted by Moliere View PostIt's interesting how this explanation now makes complete sense to 99% of active Mormons, even if it's totally contradictory to other similar scenarios that we allow for children to be baptized.
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cj's erect penis is the size of a roll of quarters. peregrino knows because they used to be lovers.Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View PostI've also been curious.Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
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I think what you mean is that it makes sense on its face but is obviously disingenuous because it allows for so many inconsistencies when applied to heterosexual families.Originally posted by mpfunk View PostThe explanation for the policy is bullshit. It makes no sense.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Nope. It doesn't even make sense on its face.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostI think what you mean is that it makes sense on its face but is obviously disingenuous because it allows for so many inconsistencies when applied to heterosexual families.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
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Yup I think the analogy to polygamy is so lame -- an old person way of thinking about gay people. I guess if you're 80 the gay couple in the neighborhood seems like a polygamist family?Originally posted by jay santos View PostWhat I find troubling is how dishonest it feels. The focus is love and protection for the kids, when I just don't think that's the motivation or what the predominant feelings are likely going to be when it plays out. I don't know how this policy will be applied or how many exceptions there will be. But what it obviously seems like is going to happen is that a kid is going to be attending church and want to be baptized and is not going to be able to. The kid is going to be hurt in this situation.
Just so bizarre to have special requirements for children with gay parents. So the rest of us are fine being open supporters of gay marriage but somehow kids with gay parents are supposed to "disavow" the marriage of their parents. What does that even mean?
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IT'S BULLSHIT!!!!Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostSure it does. You don't want to put kids in compromising positions or pit parents against kids. What don't you understand about that?
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Dead serious, dime roll!Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostWait is this serious?Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
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you have such a short term memory. you lol'd that postOriginally posted by TripletDaddy View Postremind me again about this??Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
God forgives many things for an act of mercyAlessandro Manzoni
Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
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I agree with you. I'm not ripping on lawyers, but I imagine that a lawyer crafted the wording of this policy (or at least someone with a legalistic thought process--like a bureaucrat suffering a life of quiet desperation over not having gone to law school). You don't want to put kids in compromising situations or pit parents against kids. If we give it no thought beyond that, the position is wholly defensible from a common decency standpoint. If you'll allow me to restate what you said, it's when, as you clearly noted, we think about the ramifications, even in straight families, that the logic doesn't hold up so well.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostSure it does. You don't want to put kids in compromising positions or pit parents against kids. What don't you understand about that?"Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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If that was the case the policy would need to exclude them from attending church entirely, not just exclude them from saving ordinances.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostSure it does. You don't want to put kids in compromising positions or pit parents against kids. What don't you understand about that?As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
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