Modesty...what does it mean?

[LiveCoug]

Isn't Wasatch High School in Heber City? With its proximity to Park City I would guess it would be a little more liberal.

Heber and Park City have pretty much nothing in common

[byu71]

I didn't know '71 graduated from Davis. He must be our wealthiest alum.

My guess is that title probably belongs to Nolan Bushnell.

I would guess I am in the top 120,000 though.

[creekster]

My guess is that title probably belongs to Nolan Bushnell.

I would guess I am in the top 120,000 though.

Does this Bushnell guy have a country club membership?

[MarkGrace]

Does this Bushnell guy have a country club membership?

And when he plays Oakridge is he on the Farmington or Fruit Heights side of the club?

[byu71]

Does this Bushnell guy have a country club membership?

NO, he doesn't have the need to impress anyone.

[beefytee]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/bra-straps-too-hot-for-menihek-high-students-sent-home-1.2657903

[Lost Student]

My guess is that title probably belongs to Nolan Bushnell.

I would guess I am in the top 120,000 though.

He could have cemented his top spot:

In 1976 Steve Jobs went to Nolan to get him to put in some money in exchange for a minor equity stake in Apple. Nolan remarked, "Steve asked me if I would put $50,000 in and he would give me a third of the company. I was so smart, I said no. It's kind of fun to think about that, when I'm not crying."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_B...l#Atari.2C_Inc.

[Moliere]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...home-1.2657903

I'll say that this one doesn't sound all that outrageous. Not that a corporate culture and high school are identical, but in the professional world I don't think I've ever seen the bra straps of anyone at work. Sleeveless shirts quite a bit during the hot summer, but there is a point where professionalism takes over.

[SeattleUte]

Here is the irony about modesty. Why did humans in those prior epochs decide to start teaching modesty, i.e., what is the PRACTICAL reason? Ultimately, it was to avoid unwanted pregnancy, or even disease, if early civilizations understood about sexually transmitted disease. People should be responsible about sex, even primitive peoples knew that; hence, sexual morality, and hence modesty. (But men are wrong if they think that women dress in attractive ways just or even always principally for the men.) So nowadays where are the unwanted pregnancies occurring? In communities most hung up about modesty and sex, communities that mistrust or even hate science, communities that demean women and their bodies, communities that disparage progressive norms, communities where religion holds sway as the primary source of morality teachings.

[Donuthole]

Here is the irony about modesty. Why did humans in those prior epochs decide to start teaching modesty, i.e., what is the PRACTICAL reason? Ultimately, it was to avoid unwanted pregnancy, or even disease, if early civilizations understood about sexually transmitted disease. People should be responsible about sex, even primitive peoples knew that; hence, sexual morality, and hence modesty. (But men are wrong if they think that women dress in attractive ways just or even always principally for the men.) So nowadays where are the unwanted pregnancies occurring? In communities most hung up about modesty and sex, communities that mistrust or even hate science, communities that demean women and their bodies, communities that disparage progressive norms, communities where religion holds sway as the primary source of morality teachings.

Did you have some data to back up your conclusion? Or is this like the law school diversity thing where your assumptions ended up being inaccurate? For the record, in 2012 Utah had fewer teenagers who gave birth per capita than Washington. The states were ranked 13th and 14th, respectively, for lowest teenage birth rate. Progressive states like Oregon, California, and Colorado were even further down the list.

EDIT: I suspect you'll point to the fact that a state is not necessarily a community, but since you're not providing any community data, statewide data is what we have to work with.

http://thenationalcampaign.org/data/compare/1701

[MarkGrace]

Did you have some data to back up your conclusion? Or is this like the law school diversity thing where your assumptions ended up being inaccurate? For the record, in 2012 Utah had fewer teenagers who gave birth per capita than Washington. The states were ranked 13th and 14th, respectively, for lowest teenage birth rate.

I have a feeling this is going to be an airball for SU. The guy never does anything more than split a pair at the line.

[Eddie]

Did you have some data to back up your conclusion? Or is this like the law school diversity thing where your assumptions ended up being inaccurate? For the record, in 2012 Utah had fewer teenagers who gave birth per capita than Washington. The states were ranked 13th and 14th, respectively, for lowest teenage birth rate.

I just figured that what he meant was the teens in those other places WANT to be pregnant. So it stands to reason that the pregnant teens in those states aren't counted as unwanted pregnancies. Swish.

[SeattleUte]

Did you have some data to back up your conclusion? Or is this like the law school diversity thing where your assumptions ended up being inaccurate? For the record, in 2012 Utah had fewer teenagers who gave birth per capita than Washington. The states were ranked 13th and 14th, respectively, for lowest teenage birth rate.

You can't look at all of Washington, unlike Utah. We're very diverse.

[cougjunkie]

Here is the irony about modesty. Why did humans in those prior epochs decide to start teaching modesty, i.e., what is the PRACTICAL reason? Ultimately, it was to avoid unwanted pregnancy, or even disease, if early civilizations understood about sexually transmitted disease. People should be responsible about sex, even primitive peoples knew that; hence, sexual morality, and hence modesty. (But men are wrong if they think that women dress in attractive ways just or even always principally for the men.) So nowadays where are the unwanted pregnancies occurring? In communities most hung up about modesty and sex, communities that mistrust or even hate science, communities that demean women and their bodies, communities that disparage progressive norms, communities where religion holds sway as the primary source of morality teachings.

Yes all of those primitive communities like New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, California, etc. that rank in the top 10 in teen birth rates.

http://thenationalcampaign.org/data/landing#

[Jeff Lebowski]

lol.

Poor SU. Having a rough stretch lately.