What is wrong with California?

[Pelado]

More accurately, a lot of reservoirs. The water supply has to come from somewhere. And during droughts the water levels can decline considerably. It's not like Texas can wait for the snow to melt in its mountains to fill them back up.

Deep enough for recreational use?

[LA Ute]

More accurately, a lot of reservoirs. The water supply has to come from somewhere. And during droughts the water levels can decline considerably. It's not like Texas can wait for the snow to melt in its mountains to fill them back up.

Just another way of saying Texas has nowhere to steal the water from, like L.A. did.

[Uncle Ted]

It looks like Dallas/Ft. Worth has a bunch of lakes in the area, which thing I had never supposed.

Yes, there are a lot of lakes around the DFW area for us boaters. Dallas actually gets about the same amount of rain as Seattle and Portland (about 37" per year).

Dallas seems to have a lot of airports for some reason too.

[Uncle Ted]

Just another way of saying Texas has nowhere to steal the water from, like L.A. did.

There was a lot of talk about diverting some of the red river into some of the north dallas areas. I don't know what happened with that.

[Uncle Ted]

Deep enough for recreational use?

Yes, most of the are recreation lakes...

http://www.dallasrelo.com/lakes.html

I have even had our boat on some of these that are not designated as recreation lakes like Lavon.

[FMCoug]

Haven't lived there but have been there a few times. It doesn't seem like a bad place but you might have a good drive to work if you work downtown.[/url]

A Dallas myth.

20 minutes downtown unless there is a wreck on the bridge. I worked in the Park Cities and that was usually 40 or so.

[Paperback Writer]

A Dallas myth.

20 minutes downtown unless there is a wreck on the bridge. I worked in the Park Cities and that was usually 40 or so.

Maybe Uncle Ted's and my sense of Dallas highway travel has been distorted by driving HW 75 into downtown Dallas. Perhaps Uncle Ted is able to take North Dallas Tollway, in which case, the time-travel distortion is lessened (but at a cost). Perhaps HW 30 operates differently in rush hour traffic than other major highways. But that address is about 25 miles from downtown Dallas and it would be a major accomplishment to travel that distance in any direction leading to downtown Dallas in 20 minutes during rush hour. That is not a "Dallas myth"; it's simple math (t = d/v velocity being the key variable).

[FMCoug]

The commute to downtown from Frisco, Allen, etc. is much worse than from Rockwall. All the growth has been north ( at least as of 4 years ago) and such is the traffic.

Lake Ray Hubbard is Dallas' version of Point of the Mountain. In SLC, people think Draper is fine but Lehi is "way down there". Same thing with being East of the Lake.

I didn't map the address so maybe 20 minutes is an exaggerarion ... But the point is that people who endure horrific commutes from points north always think Rockwall is too far out ...

[FMCoug]

Deep enough for recreational use?

Unlike Utah Lake, yes.

Ray Hubbard (where we kept our boat) was 40' by the dam.

[oxcoug]

Yeah whatever, it's only $6.8B more than the $9.2B shortfall originally predicted. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/cali...rry-brown.html

And as long as CA refuses to deal with its bloated public employee entitlements and continues to chase businesses out of state, this is just going to keep getting worse.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/cali...rry-brown.html

[LA Ute]

Yeah whatever, it's only $6.8B more than the $9.2B shortfall originally predicted. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/cali...rry-brown.html

And as long as CA refuses to deal with its bloated public employee entitlements and continues to chase businesses out of state, this is just going to keep getting worse.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/cali...rry-brown.html

Yep.

[Uncle Ted]

Yeah whatever, it's only $6.8B more than the $9.2B shortfall originally predicted. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/cali...rry-brown.html

And as long as CA refuses to deal with its bloated public employee entitlements and continues to chase businesses out of state, this is just going to keep getting worse.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/cali...rry-brown.html

I am working in California this week and was watching the local news this morning. It seems Jerry wants to cut a good part of this overrun out of education. Something like $5B out of K-12 and another $0.5B from Cal State and UCal.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,1532582.story



In other news, a 1%'er isn't going to take this harassment any more and is moving to Signapore so he can avoid many hundreds of millions (as much as $600 million) in federal and California capital gains taxes. Yet another data point about trying to tax the rich and the rich just voting with their feet.

[Indy Coug]

In other news, a 1%'er isn't going to take this harassment any more and is moving to Signapore so he can avoid many hundreds of millions (as much as $600 million) in federal and California capital gains taxes. Yet another data point about trying to tax the rich and the rich just voting with their feet.

It's what happens in Europe.

[LA Ute]

It's what happens in Europe.

California 2012 is kind of a preview of what Obama and the American Left generally would like to see the USA become. The Golden State is not Sweden yet, but that's the goal! (Greece will be the eventual result, unless something changes.)

[Color Me Badd Fan]

I am working in California this week and was watching the local news this morning. It seems Jerry wants to cut a good part of this overrun out of education. Something like $5B out of K-12 and another $0.5B from Cal State and UCal.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,1532582.story



In other news, a 1%'er isn't going to take this harassment any more and is moving to Signapore so he can avoid many hundreds of millions (as much as $600 million) in federal and California capital gains taxes. Yet another data point about trying to tax the rich and the rich just voting with their feet.

The wealthier have a much easier time moving than the poor. I suppose a lot of these people will just move their business ventures out of state and then just keep a second home in California.

This may be one of those fake quotes (most often happens with Lincoln and Twain) but here's this gem from de Tocqueville:

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

What's happening here is the Democrats figure they can win if they simply pander to people that just want free shit. White, upscale libs are fine with it because the Democrats are also the party of social liberalism. But eventually the rubber will meet the road when the white upscale libs can no longer tolerate the government taking their stuff.