The Fiscal Cliff

[All-American]

The average voter has no clue about the medical device tax.

You used five words too many in that sentence. I'll let you guess which five.

[doctorcoug]

You used five words too many in that sentence. I'll let you guess which five.

And this is why I think we should get back to the days of property rights and votes. If you don't pay federal income tax, you don't get a vote. They have no financial skin in the game, other than the taxpayers skin.

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[frank ryan]

And this is why I think we should get back to the days of property rights and votes. If you don't pay federal income tax, you don't get a vote. They have no financial skin in the game, other than the taxpayers skin.

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Keep dreaming that classist bullshit will not happen.

[doctorcoug]

Keep dreaming that classist bullshit will not happen.

It won't happen, but it should.

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[All-American]

Majority leader Cantor opposes the deal.

[frank ryan]

It won't happen, but it should.

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No it shouldn't. People who have money aren't inherently more moral or better than those don't. You position is an arrogant one.

[byu71]

Majority leader Cantor opposes the deal.

Those who have national aspirations or leadership within the party aspirations will get a pass on voting yes.

Congressional people are never held accountable for their votes outside of their own party.

Obama is a prime example You can find tons of votes one way and comments on the campaign trail that are opposite. If the press chooses to give you a pass, you get one. If you're Romney, then they will call you a flip flopper.

[Bo Diddley]

It won't happen, but it should.

The government regulates more than just the spending of money they take in.

[byu71]

Download the .pdf file and read it.

Could you point me in the right direction?. I can't find it.

[frank ryan]

Majority leader Cantor opposes the deal.

The media will roll out their narrative and this will haunt him should the bill stall.

Those who have national aspirations or leadership within the party aspirations will get a pass on voting yes.

Congressional people are never held accountable for their votes outside of their own party.

Obama is a prime example You can find tons of votes one way and comments on the campaign trail that are opposite. If the press chooses to give you a pass, you get one. If you're Romney, then they will call you a flip flopper.

Kerry sure didn't get a pass on flip flopping and he shouldn't have. I think Romney strikes people as very disingenuous and he did quite a bit of flip flopping, to be fair. Obama has sold out on a lot of issues but except for gay marriage his pendulum didn't swing as much as Romney on the flashy social issues.

[doctorcoug]

No it shouldn't. People who have money aren't inherently more moral or better than those don't. You position is an arrogant one.

Who said anything about morality? It is all about money, period. Plutocracy gets a bad rap, but that is because it inherently strips the rights of millions of Americans. Nobody wants to suggest this idea because it is political suicide. But at the end of the day, it should be about money and democracy can't sustain the power of the poor voting bloc that makes decisions that will temporarily improve their situation but shackle the ling-term growth, assuring their long-term poverty.

Why is this arrogance?

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[byu71]

The media will roll out their narrative and this will haunt him should the bill stall.


Kerry sure didn't get a pass on flip flopping and he shouldn't have. I think Romney strikes people as very disingenuous and he did quite a bit of flip flopping, to be fair. Obama has sold out on a lot of issues but except for gay marriage his pendulum didn't swing as much as Romney on the flashy social issues.

He was going to close guantanemo (sp), Bush unamerican for running up defecit, he would cut defecit in half, raising taxes during tough economic times is wrong, need to cut welfare and medicare entitlement, you shouldn't use name calling to scare tactics when discussing entitlements. I could go find his votes, but that probably wouldn't change your mind.

On this one we just will have to disagree. I have come to believe Obama is the biggest, two faced, talk out of both sides of his mouth, President I have ever known.

I do think he is a good family man.

[frank ryan]

Who said anything about morality? It is all about money, period. Plutocracy gets a bad rap, but that is because it inherently strips the rights of millions of Americans. Nobody wants to suggest this idea because it is political suicide. But at the end of the day, it should be about money and democracy can't sustain the power of the poor voting bloc that makes decisions that will temporarily improve their situation but shackle the ling-term growth, assuring their long-term poverty.

Why is this arrogance?

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You would exclude a whole bunch of combat disabled vets. And that is just one group. It is arrogant to think huge swaths of people don't have a skin in the game because they don't have as much money as you. It is an incredibly empathetically challenged notion amigo. It also shows a resentment of the poor.

[frank ryan]

He was going to close guantanemo (sp), Bush unamerican for running up defecit, he would cut defecit in half, raising taxes during tough economic times is wrong, need to cut welfare and medicare entitlement, you shouldn't use name calling to scare tactics when discussing entitlements. I could go find his votes, but that probably wouldn't change your mind.

On this one we just will have to disagree. I have come to believe Obama is the biggest, two faced, talk out of both sides of his mouth, President I have ever known.

I do think he is a good family man.

Failing to keep campaign promises and staking out different idealogical positions aren't the same thing. I know Obama has an honesty deficiency but I think the reason that label stuck with Romney more had to with his shift on issues like abortion and immigration. Part of it comes down to the fact that Obama is better at being a politician than Romney. That isn't exactly praise

[byu71]

Part of it comes down to the fact that Obama is better at being a politician than Romney. That isn't exactly praise

I would agree but add, Obama also has a very compliant media.

Example CNN congresional reporter just said, Boehner gets it. If the republicans don't pass this, the vast majority (55% is vast) will blame the republicans, market will collapse, economy will take a serious hit.

I doubt they got that directly from Boehner. A lot of assumtions and exaggerations being reported as fact, not opinion.