The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[frank ryan]

So apparently the Russian did go after state elections systems. Doesn't sound like vote counts were altered. But that is pretty damn concerning.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

So apparently the Russian did go after state elections systems. Doesn't sound like vote counts were altered. But that is pretty damn concerning.

Very concerning, right or left leaning viewpoint aside.

[New Mexican Disaster]

Very concerning, right or left leaning viewpoint aside.

I'm not weighing in on that until Uncle Ted sounds off.

[Topper]

It's always been a disorder - a notoriously hard to treat one at that.

As I understand it, it is almost impossible, because the patient must want to improve and most narcissists don't desire to change. By the time it is recognized the patient is so ingrained it becomes impossible. My sister as a therapist believes otherwise, because she treats it not as a disorder but as a dysfunction related to relationships, and believes people can improve the functionality of relationships if the situation is presented properly.

[Walter Sobchak]

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Biden using his hindsight to inform everyone that knew Hillary Clinton would lose. Biden made the comments while speaking at an event hosted by Mitt Romney. Ha!

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[frank ryan]

Russian hacking in to state voting systems is a lot more concerning than previously thought:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-u-s-elections

"Such operations need not change votes to be effective. In fact, the Obama administration believed that the Russians were possibly preparing to delete voter registration information or slow vote tallying in order to undermine confidence in the election. That effort went far beyond the carefully timed release of private communications by individuals and parties.

One former senior U.S. official expressed concern that the Russians now have three years to build on their knowledge of U.S. voting systems before the next presidential election, and there is every reason to believe they will use what they have learned in future attacks."

[Bo Diddley]

Russian hacking in to state voting systems is a lot more concerning than previously thought:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-u-s-elections

"Such operations need not change votes to be effective. In fact, the Obama administration believed that the Russians were possibly preparing to delete voter registration information or slow vote tallying in order to undermine confidence in the election. That effort went far beyond the carefully timed release of private communications by individuals and parties.

One former senior U.S. official expressed concern that the Russians now have three years to build on their knowledge of U.S. voting systems before the next presidential election, and there is every reason to believe they will use what they have learned in future attacks."

Maybe we should stay with old school.

[Moliere]

Russian hacking in to state voting systems is a lot more concerning than previously thought:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-u-s-elections

"Such operations need not change votes to be effective. In fact, the Obama administration believed that the Russians were possibly preparing to delete voter registration information or slow vote tallying in order to undermine confidence in the election. That effort went far beyond the carefully timed release of private communications by individuals and parties.

One former senior U.S. official expressed concern that the Russians now have three years to build on their knowledge of U.S. voting systems before the next presidential election, and there is every reason to believe they will use what they have learned in future attacks."

That's very concerning but it's great that they weren't able to do anything nefarious in the system or with the data. The Russians clearly didn't hack the actual voting systems and looks like the US had procedures in place to safeguard the voting registration data as well.

I find the " three years to build on their knowledge of U.S. voting systems " comment in the article to be kind of funny. The US also has three years to change their systems to stay ahead. I can only guess this is a game of cat and mouse that has been going on for sometime now.

[frank ryan]

The US also has three years to change their systems to stay ahead. I can only guess this is a game of cat and mouse that has been going on for sometime now.

That's true, I hope it's a priority for those charged with overseeing it.

[Topper]

That's true, I hope it's a priority for those charged with overseeing it.

Frank is always the cynic, until the Dems are in charge.

[Moliere]

Frank is always the cynic, until the Dems are in charge.

I don't think frank is cynical. He's got a heathy dose of skepticism, but so do most of us.


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[Uncle Ted]

Oh good hell... the Ruskies have hacked the election again:

GOP's Karen Handel wins most expensive House race ever: NBC News projection

Republican Karen Handel has won Georgia's record-breaking special congressional election, according to an NBC News projection.


Seen as an early proxy for whether Democrats can flip certain Republican-leaning districts in the President Donald Trump era, Tuesday's election drew national attention and record cash from around the country. Democrats have aimed to leverage Trump's dismal approval rating and opposition to the Republican health-care bill into winning Republican seats and potentially taking control of the House in 2018.


The race for Georgia's 6th District for the seat vacated by Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price pit Handel, 55, the former Georgia secretary of state, against Democrat Jon Ossoff, a 30-year old former congressional aide. Fueled by a rush of donors from around the U.S., Ossoff pushed for an upset in the suburban Atlanta district that Price repeatedly won easily, but ultimately came up short.


The two campaigns and outside groups supporting and opposing the candidates shelled out at least $36 million as of May 31, including more than $22 million from Ossoff's campaign. The election easily set a record for spending in a House race, according to NBC News.
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http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/20/georg...-election.html

How can someone lose when they spend significantly more than the other candidate? It has to be the Russians.

[Crockett]

Oh good hell... the Ruskies have hacked the election again:


http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/20/georg...-election.html

How can someone lose when they spend significantly more than the other candidate? It has to be the Russians.

Dear Democrats:

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[Uncle Ted]

Dear Democrats:

These Drumpf people have no heart...

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[ERCougar]

These Drumpf people have no heart...

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Ok, that's a little funny.