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  • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    I don't think they can help themselves. Libertarians value ideological purity so much that they cannot deal with practical political issues. They may produce tempting political philosophy, but they are not ready to govern.

    Sorry UT.
    And people want to debate the effect of pot smoking on the brain.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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    • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

      Nice. Your best shot in decades, and your candidate reminds everyone that the Libertarian party is still not a serious party.
      If we should hvae intervened in WWII? WTH? I can only assume he meant intervene in Europe because in the Pacific theatre WWII intervened in us when we woke up one Sunday to find most of our fleet at the bottom of Pearl Harbor. WHat dopey thing to say.
      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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      • Originally posted by creekster View Post
        If we should hvae intervened in WWII? WTH? I can only assume he meant intervene in Europe because in the Pacific theatre WWII intervened in us when we woke up one Sunday to find most of our fleet at the bottom of Pearl Harbor. WHat dopey thing to say.
        We intervened militarily in Europe after Hitler declared war on us a few days after pearl harbor, as a result of a secret pact he had made with the Japanese.
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          We intervened militarily in Europe after Hitler declared war on us a few days after pearl harbor, as a result of a secret pact he had made with the Japanese.
          I understand the legality, but his point was normative or strategic. If you didn't care about the continent, and didn't care about Russia (and the possibility that Russia might win and itself control the continent) then you could argue that Europe didn't make much sense. In fact, that we wouldn't intervene was something Churchill worried about a lot in 39-42, as he feared we would just focus on the Japanese. So maybe the idea that we SHOULDN'T have intervened is a discussion you could have about Europe, but it makes no sense whatsoever in the Pacific.

          But thanks for the help with history. And, to be clear, I think it is a stupid thing to say from any perspective, but even more so if you're talking about the Pacific, becasue we didn't intervene.

          (btw, some would argue we had intervened in europe through lend/lease long before. My guess is the Libertarians would have objected to that program as many did back then)
          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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          • Libertarians also use XP. Lol.

            https://twitter.com/tziegmann/status/736966022628966400

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            • Originally posted by Moliere View Post


              Maybe I need to look at the Green Party candidate

              I'm almost to the point where I'm just going to write in Mitt
              Problem w/ Green Party is their platform is anti-vaccine. They are crazy, no thanks. Anyone is better than Trump though.

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              • I can't imagine a more righteous war than WW2. Sad that the Brits had to go it alone for so long on the Western front.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • A new independent candidate to emerge?

                  http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...ndent_bid.html

                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • With Trump in the process of hanging the Constitution by a thread, it's time for the Elders of the Church to step up.

                    Has Jon Huntsman paid his back tithing and gotten a temple recommend? Or is there another shooter on the grassy knoll.

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                    • Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post
                      With Trump in the process of hanging the Constitution by a thread, it's time for the Elders of the Church to step up.

                      Has Jon Huntsman paid his back tithing and gotten a temple recommend? Or is there another shooter on the grassy knoll.
                      Huntsman is a pretty unimpressive leader, so no thanks.

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                      • Heh.

                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                          A new independent candidate to emerge?

                          http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...ndent_bid.html

                          Mitt's peeps keep saying it's not him, but I'm hoping they're wrong. Though I'll take anyone right now I'm pretty sure Mitt running and winning would be the best comeback in the history of America. Like unmitigated disaster to unqualified success in just a few short months.

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                          • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                            Mitt's peeps keep saying it's not him, but I'm hoping they're wrong. Though I'll take anyone right now I'm pretty sure Mitt running and winning would be the best comeback in the history of America. Like unmitigated disaster to unqualified success in just a few short months.
                            I would love to see it happen. I can't think of a more perfect time for an independent run. Even if he lost badly, he would have my respect and gratitude.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Not sure I get this Independent run. The Independent doesn't have a prayer of winning. If these people want Trump to lose so bad, why not come out and endorse Hillary.

                              As far as Bill Crystal goes, I think I remember disliking him when he kept dissing Romney during Romney's primary run. He (Crystal) reminds me of Erik Erickson and that isn't a compliment

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                              • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                                Not sure I get this Independent run. The Independent doesn't have a prayer of winning. If these people want Trump to lose so bad, why not come out and endorse Hillary.
                                We want both Trump and Hillary to lose. Duh.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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