The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

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  • YOhio
    Hipster Mode
    • Nov 2008
    • 26165

    #121
    Good article on Rob Portman. I've always really liked him and he's the only name thrown out so far that excites me.

    http://thehill.com/opinion/john-feeh...the-anti-obama

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    • I.J. Reilly
      Nobody's Fool
      • Apr 2009
      • 2949

      #122
      If Jeb Bush is out, Romney is in.

      I'm all for this.

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      • Maximus
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 6016

        #123
        Originally posted by I.J. Reilly View Post
        If Jeb Bush is out, Romney is in.

        I'm all for this.
        romney would never win the nomination

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        • All-American
          Right, as Usual
          • Nov 2008
          • 15662

          #124
          Originally posted by Maximus View Post
          romney would never win the nomination
          You'd think not, but it's a pretty weak-looking field at the moment. Can't blame the guy for dipping a toe in the pool.
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          • MarkGrace
            Grooveshark dick tease
            • Dec 2008
            • 31546

            #125
            I was wondering what all his recent appearances were about.
            So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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            • Maximus
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 6016

              #126
              Originally posted by All-American View Post
              You'd think not, but it's a pretty weak-looking field at the moment. Can't blame the guy for dipping a toe in the pool.
              there are a lot of great candidates that for some reason poeple are down on because of "RINO" etc. Marco Rubio should be the front runner but made some conservatives mad for pushing for immigration reform. Dumb reason for him to fall out of flavor. Bush better not run. Id rant paul to win nomination over him. christie, we will see what it looks like in 2 years. but no way romney could beat someone like Hillary if he cant be an unpopular Obama

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              • All-American
                Right, as Usual
                • Nov 2008
                • 15662

                #127
                Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                there are a lot of great candidates that for some reason poeple are down on because of "RINO" etc. Marco Rubio should be the front runner but made some conservatives mad for pushing for immigration reform. Dumb reason for him to fall out of flavor. Bush better not run. Id rant paul to win nomination over him. christie, we will see what it looks like in 2 years. but no way romney could beat someone like Hillary if he cant be an unpopular Obama
                When your list of "great candidates" starts with Marco Rubio, I feel pretty good about my earlier statement. He's a junior senator who has yet to finish his first term. He will have as much experience as a Senator in November 2016 as Obama had in November 2008. The same is true of Rand Paul, whose primary draw is being so crazy that it just might work. Bush is, well, a Bush. Christie's stock is plummeting. Walker is an unknown. Jindal is trying out the Huntsman strategy of despising Republicans, with similar results so far.

                I'm not saying your suggestion that there's no way Romney can beat Hillary is wrong. I'm just saying that may also be true of just about every other Republican, too.
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                • Omaha 680
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 11180

                  #128
                  If it is another Bush vs. another Clinton, I would probably vote third party for the first time in my life...probably.

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                  • Uncle Ted
                    The Big 12 money shot.
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 28853

                    #129
                    "It's time to burn the beret and bury the blue dress…"






                    This is will be good to get this all out and in the past so Hillary can make a clean run.

                    $12 million dollars for a tell-all book? Not bad, Lewinsky.
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • All-American
                      Right, as Usual
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 15662

                      #130
                      Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                      "It's time to burn the beret and bury the blue dress…"






                      This is will be good to get this all out and in the past so Hillary can make a clean run.

                      $12 million dollars for a tell-all book? Not bad, Lewinsky.
                      That's an incredibly awesome word choice for the cover. I mean, come on, ma'am, it wouldn't if you hadn't.
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                      • imanihonjin
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 3772

                        #131
                        Freaking hypocrites:

                        http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...they-back.html

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                        • TripletDaddy
                          sweet triple
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 58186

                          #132
                          Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
                          that at is a stupid criticism given that tax avoidance is practiced by every politician while tax reform is preached with the same frequency,

                          what I did find interesting was that for all the Clintons have done or accomplished in their collective careers, Most NBA players make more in 9 months than the low estimate of the Clintons entire net worth.
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                          • Omaha 680
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 11180

                            #133
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post

                            what I did find interesting was that for all the Clintons have done or accomplished in their collective careers, Most NBA players make more in 9 months than the low estimate of the Clintons entire net worth.


                            Estimates of the Clintons' net worth I have seen are between 60 and 100 million dollars. Aren't there only a handful of athletes who could make that much in nine months?

                            Edit: Ah I see you must be using the range reported in the article. Does anyone really believe the Clintons could possibly be worth only $5M? Bill has been giving speeches at $200k-300k a pop for over a decade. Hillary has now followed suit. They both have had massive book deals. Not that any of this really bothers me. I just found your NBA comparison odd.
                            Last edited by Omaha 680; 06-18-2014, 07:19 AM.

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                            • imanihonjin
                              Junior Member
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 3772

                              #134
                              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              that at is a stupid criticism given that tax avoidance is practiced by every politician while tax reform is preached with the same frequency,

                              what I did find interesting was that for all the Clintons have done or accomplished in their collective careers, Most NBA players make more in 9 months than the low estimate of the Clintons entire net worth.
                              So the Clinton's don't really believe in paying their fair share?

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                              • All-American
                                Right, as Usual
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 15662

                                #135
                                Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post


                                Estimates of the Clintons' net worth I have seen are between 60 and 100 million dollars. Aren't there only a handful of athletes who could make that much in nine months?

                                Edit: Ah I see you must be using the range reported in the article. Does anyone really believe the Clintons could possibly be worth only $5M? Bill has been giving speeches at $200k-300k a pop for over a decade. Hillary has now followed suit. They both have had massive book deals. Not that any of this really bothers me. I just found your NBA comparison odd.
                                You're measuring income, not outgo. It wouldn't surprise me at all if money was going out at near the rate it is coming in. Those things that mean more than money can be very expensive.
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