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  • Carson had his Muslim line over the weekend which took away the news coverage from Donald Trump's answer to the Imus troll. There were signs that Trump was about to start losing support. Maybe Carson is the next guy to nosedive.

    And then there's Fiorina who seems the most capable at beating back Trump. I mentioned this article yesterday, but it's definitely worth a read:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...ld-2016-213163
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    • Is Mitt back in yet? Will someone please PM me when he does? I would like to start paying attention at that point.
      "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

      - Ty Cobb

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      • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
        Carson had his Muslim line over the weekend which took away the news coverage from Donald Trump's answer to the Imus troll. There were signs that Trump was about to start losing support. Maybe Carson is the next guy to nosedive.

        And then there's Fiorina who seems the most capable at beating back Trump. I mentioned this article yesterday, but it's definitely worth a read:

        http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...ld-2016-213163
        That's a good write up about her. She wasn't a good CEO and made a really bad decision on the Compaq purchase. Although, many people in my area were happy with the acquisition since they worked for Compaq and it was tanking at the time. Saved some jobs around my current hometown.

        Fiorina is probably competent, but she's not really president material given her background. She should go the Mitt route and be a governor somewhere to get some executive experience in the public field.
        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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        • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
          Hillary will kill Trump. The press is treating Donald as entertainment and good for ratings. If he ends up going up against Hillary they will put a far different light on all of his outlandish statements.

          Sadly it feels like there are 3 parties. The democrats who have their share of wacko's, but they hang together with the non-wacko's. The republicans have their wacko's who if they feel like they aren't getting their way will show the other republicans by not participating. I blame them for us having President Obama, not the democrats.

          This whole thing is kind of sad. For me anyway.
          The media has been trying to portray Trump negatively already. It's just not having any effect. It will possibly have effect once he gets nominated, only because the polls then will have to ask everyone and not just redneck southern republican populists from South Carolina likely to vote in the republican primary. In other words, the main reason right now is because about who the polls are sampling, IMO. If you look at polls that have to talk to a general election type sample because they're asking who they would pick between Trump and Hillary, Trump gets clobbered.
          Last edited by BlueK; 09-22-2015, 09:56 AM.

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          • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
            The media has been trying to portray Trump negatively already. It's just not having any effect. It will possibly have effect once he gets nominated, only because the polls then will have to ask everyone and not just redneck southern republican populists from South Carolina likely to vote in the republican primary. In other words, the main reason right now it's mainly about who the polls are sampling, IMO.
            From what I have seen they don't challenge his bull crap reasoning too much. I think they don't want to tarnish him too much because right now he is great for ratings.

            Maybe it is just me that wishes they would grill him more.

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            • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
              From what I have seen they don't challenge his bull crap reasoning too much. I think they don't want to tarnish him too much because right now he is great for ratings.

              Maybe it is just me that wishes they would grill him more.
              The other problem is the media doesn't want to offend its audience. Trump has rapidly become the candidate of choice for the southern redneck faction who are the largest audience for Fox News. These folks tend to be lower educated, lower income, socially conservative but a little economically liberal who distrust establishment type politicians and think foreigners and immigrants and Obama are to blame for the fact that they don't make a lot of money and live in a trailer.

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              • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                Hillary will kill Trump. The press is treating Donald as entertainment and good for ratings. If he ends up going up against Hillary they will put a far different light on all of his outlandish statements.

                Sadly it feels like there are 3 parties. The democrats who have their share of wacko's, but they hang together with the non-wacko's. The republicans have their wacko's who if they feel like they aren't getting their way will show the other republicans by not participating. I blame them for us having President Obama, not the democrats.

                This whole thing is kind of sad. For me anyway.
                You know who else is sad? Mr. Apostrophe. Poor little guy takes so much abuse.
                Last edited by Jeff Lebowski; 09-22-2015, 10:26 AM.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  You know who else is sad? Mr. Apostrophe. Poor little guy takes so much abuse.
                  Why do they call anal people anal?

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                  • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                    Why do they call anal people anal?
                    I think it used to be called "anal retentitive" (implying that they have tight sphincters). But it get hards to say anal retentive all the time, so it's been shortened to "anal" as a convention of convienience.

                    You could check urbandictionary.com though, if you wish.
                    "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                    - Ty Cobb

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                    • Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
                      I think it used to be called "anal retentitive" (implying that they have tight sphincters). But it get hards to say anal retentive all the time, so it's been shortened to "anal" as a convention of convienience.

                      You could check urbandictionary.com though, if you wish.
                      Freud thinks it has something to do with having trouble during toilet training. I am sure JL could give us a more detailed analysis from personal experience.

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                      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        You know who else is sad? Mr. Apostrophe. Poor little guy takes so much abuse.

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                        • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                          Freud thinks it has something to do with having trouble during toilet training. I am sure JL could give us a more detailed analysis from personal experience.
                          JL 71
                          "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                          - Ty Cobb

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                          • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                            The other problem is the media doesn't want to offend its audience. Trump has rapidly become the candidate of choice for the southern redneck faction who are the largest audience for Fox News. These folks tend to be lower educated, lower income, socially conservative but a little economically liberal who distrust establishment type politicians and think foreigners and immigrants and Obama are to blame for the fact that they don't make a lot of money and live in a trailer.
                            I'd counter that most backwoods rednecks (and I know a few) are not blaming anyone for their lack of money or their trailer. They live that way because they like it as it allows them to live as they please without people (or the government) intruding on them. They probably also like Trump, because most of them are also xenophobes and racists.
                            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                            • “I’m also concerned about a guy that believes he’s a Christian and pretends to be and then says he is, but does things that makes it very difficult for people to practice their Christian faith. I’m disappointed if a person says, ‘I’m a Christian,’ but you invite the Pope into your home and then you invite a whole bunch of people who are at odds with the Catholic Church policy. I think there’s something very unseemly about that.”
                              http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/...e-a-christian/

                              Go home Huckabee. You're an idiot and a bigot.
                              "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                              "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                              - SeattleUte

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                              • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                                http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/...e-a-christian/

                                Go home Huckabee. You're an idiot and a bigot.
                                Originally posted by Huckabee
                                Huckabee said “There is no religious test for a person to hold public office in America. I’m less concerned about what faith a person has, I’m more concerned about the authenticity of their faith and how that plays out in their policies.”
                                Weird. I don't think he held this view when Mitt was running. Also, he really reminds me of a Bizarro Kevin Spacey.
                                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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