The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[BlueK]

Register Mickey Mouse so that I can have a candidate with dignity and longevity.

Mickey missed the deadline unfortunately. Any reason you can't vote for Johnson? He seems to align closest to what you post.

[BlueK]

His attorney knows they can't credibly launch a libel case. But Trump probably demanded a letter be sent to the Times and Trump might actually believe it would have some effect.

Because he's a complete moron.

[beefytee]

I've never written in Mickey Mouse, but I'm pretty sure that's what I'm going to do in the Utah state senate race.

[BlueK]

But if you find yourself in the voting booth you wont find "anyone but Trump" as a choice. So who will you vote for and why? I thought you had said you were choosing HRC, but maybe thats wrong; Maybe you were just saying she is better. So who do you plan to vote for?

My dream scenario for Utah short of Johnson winning outright would be basically a four way split with Trump taking dead last once all the votes are counted.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Listening to Trump's fire and brimstone speech earlier today was (paradoxically, I suppose) chilling. But I enjoyed his attack on one of his accusers, "Take a look, you take a look, look at her, look at her words -- you tell me what you think. I don't think so..." Is he suggesting that her looks are clear evidence why he wouldn't have sexually assaulted her?

After listening to his screed, I got kind of sick imagining what his concession speech will be on November 8. I've always been impressed by the losing candidates' speeches in my lifetime, be they Democratic or Republican, as they are invariably gracious, conciliatory and include a pledge (sometimes more strongly than others) of support going forward. I predict a departure from that tradition.

And how weird is it that the Republican nominee has strong backing from the Russians and Julian Assange, but not by the highest ranking Republican in government, or by past GOP Presidents?

One other note. The June 2017 U.S. Women's Open (the most prestigious tournament in women's golf) is slated to take place at (I love this) Trump National Golf Club in NJ. I predict a departure from that, as well. But if they stick with that locale, I hope the announcers set up shop in the locker room. I suspect there will be some entertaining banter.

[creekster]

And how weird is it that the Republican nominee has strong backing from the Russians and Julian Assange, but not by the highest ranking Republican in government, or by past GOP Presidents?

Wait; Assange supports Trump? Is this true? I did not have that impression. I thought Assange was just releasing emails relating to HRC becasue it is all he had. Is that not true?

[PaloAltoCougar]

Wait; Assange supports Trump? Is this true? I did not have that impression. I thought Assange was just releasing emails relating to HRC becasue it is all he had. Is that not true?

An assumption on my part, as he clearly wants her to lose. He may have fallen under Uncle Ted's thrall and is backing Johnson.

[beefytee]

An assumption on my part, as he clearly wants her to lose. He may have fallen under Uncle Ted's thrall and is backing Johnson.

All he cares about is causing chaos, so it isn't too much of an assumption that he would love Trump to win.

[creekster]

An assumption on my part, as he clearly wants her to lose. He may have fallen under Uncle Ted's thrall and is backing Johnson.

I am not sure that he clearly wants her to lose. I think that his ethos is complete transparency. I think he would prefer to have complete transparency for everyone including Trump but because he has the emails for Clinton, and because it would make him just like the rest of them if he held them until after the election, he felt compelled to release them (and to throw in a bit of self promotion along the way) even if it helps Trump. I am guessing he was pleased that he held them long enough so that they were competing with Trump's current issues instead of standing alone.

[BlueK]

I saw an interview with Mark Cuban once where he said he got a threatening letter from Trump's lawyers because he in a TV interview said he knew firsthand about Trumps finances because of deals they'd done and that he knew Trump didn't have as much money as he would like everyone to think he does, and he certainly didn't have enough cash lying around to self-fund a run for the presidency. Cuban told Trump's lawyer he had no legal basis for the threat and told him where to stick his letter. The lawyer never bothered him again.

[PaloAltoCougar]

I am not sure that he clearly wants her to lose. I think that his ethos is complete transparency. I think he would prefer to have complete transparency for everyone including Trump but because he has the emails for Clinton, and because it would make him just like the rest of them if he held them until after the election, he felt compelled to release them (and to throw in a bit of self promotion along the way) even if it helps Trump. I am guessing he was pleased that he held them long enough so that they were competing with Trump's current issues instead of standing alone.

In truth, I'm not sure either, but the highlighted language supports the idea that transparency isn't his only, and perhaps not even his primary, goal here. Otherwise, why hold them at all?

[beefytee]

I am not sure that he clearly wants her to lose. I think that his ethos is complete transparency. I think he would prefer to have complete transparency for everyone including Trump but because he has the emails for Clinton, and because it would make him just like the rest of them if he held them until after the election, he felt compelled to release them (and to throw in a bit of self promotion along the way) even if it helps Trump. I am guessing he was pleased that he held them long enough so that they were competing with Trump's current issues instead of standing alone.

Assange wrote on WikiLeaks in February 2016: "I have had years of experience in dealing with Hillary Clinton and have read thousands of her cables. Hillary lacks judgement and will push the United States into endless, stupid wars which spread terrorism. ... she certainly should not become president of the United States."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange

But he claims he doesn't like Trump either.

...choosing between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump is like choosing between cholera or gonorrhea. "Personally, I would prefer neither."

If his ethos were complete transparency, he wouldn't be holding back information until the timing is right. Right now, he is claiming to release something every week until election day.

[Omaha 680]

I was happy to read this. With HRC as president, I want divided government. As Trump's implosion accelerates, I hope more voters can mentally divorce him from most of the rest of the Republican candidates and the down ballot carnage will be minimized.

In recent elections, more and more voters have been choosing candidates from the same party for president and Senate. That trend appeared to be holding true this year too, even with Donald Trump, unusual as he is, on the ballot. So as Hillary Clinton jumped out to a bigger lead in the polls starting after the first presidential debate in late September, we might have expected Democratic Senate candidates to poll better as well. That hasn’t happened — the chance of Democrats controlling the Senate is only 54 percent in our polls-only model and 56 percent in our polls-plus model.

Indeed, the races for Senate control and the White House have split. Here are the Democrats’ chances of taking back the Senate and winning the presidency, according to our polls-only forecasts, from mid-July until now.

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...losing-ground/

[creekster]

In truth, I'm not sure either, but the highlighted language supports the idea that transparency isn't his only, and perhaps not even his primary, goal here. Otherwise, why hold them at all?

Thats fair, although he would say they were being reviewed for confidential info (for example, they redacted credit card info from DNC donor lists). I think Assange is all about Assange. He is like Trump in actuality.

[Northwestcoug]

Man I love the internet: