The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[Walter Sobchak]

the Ken Bone thing easily the best part of last night's debate.

[Moliere]

My inlaws are all voting for Trump.

MJ is on the fence. She absolutely won't vote for Clinton and she's struggling talking herself into voting for Trump. I told her to vote for Johnson or McMullin but she thinks a 3rd party vote is a wasted vote. I reminder her that we live in Texas so her vote won't matter regardless. I've almost got her convinced to #feelthejohnson


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[Jeff Lebowski]

George Will knocks it clean out of the park. I love this essay so much.

(trigger warning: nazi reference)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.70a8ace29009

What did Donald Trump have left to lose Sunday night? His dignity? Please. His campaign’s theme? His Cleveland convention was a mini-Nuremberg rally for Republicans whose three-word recipe for making America great again was the shriek “Lock her up!” This presaged his banana-republican vow to imprison his opponent.

The St. Louis festival of snarls was preceded by the release of a tape that merely provided redundant evidence of what Trump is like when he is being his boisterous self. Nevertheless, the tape sent various Republicans, who until then had discovered nothing to disqualify Trump from the presidency, into paroxysms of theatrical, tactical and synthetic dismay.

Again, the tape revealed nothing about this arrested-development adolescent that today’s righteously recoiling Republicans either did not already know or had no excuse for not knowing. Before the tape reminded the pathologically forgetful of Trump’s feral appetites and deranged sense of entitlement, the staid Economist magazine, holding the subject of Trump at arm’s length like a soiled sock, reminded readers of this: “When Mr. Trump divorced the first of his three wives, Ivana, he let the New York tabloids know that one reason for the separation was that her breast implants felt all wrong.”

His sexual loutishness is a sufficient reason for defeating him, but it is far down a long list of sufficient reasons. But if it — rather than, say, his enthusiasm for torture even “if it doesn’t work,” or his ignorance of the nuclear triad — is required to prompt some Republicans to have second thoughts about him, so be it.

Today, however, Trump should stay atop the ticket, for four reasons. First, he will give the nation the pleasure of seeing him join the one cohort, of the many cohorts he disdains, that he most despises — “losers.” Second, by continuing to campaign in the spirit of St. Louis, he can remind the nation of the useful axiom that there is no such thing as rock bottom. Third, by persevering through Nov. 8 he can simplify the GOP’s quadrennial exercise of writing its post-campaign autopsy, which this year can be published Nov. 9 in one sentence: “Perhaps it is imprudent to nominate a venomous charlatan.” Fourth, Trump is the GOP’s chemotherapy, a nauseating but, if carried through to completion, perhaps a curative experience.

[Copelius]

The only way I can see to salvage this election is to campaign to the electors who are not required by state law to vote for their pledged candidate. The electoral map would look like this if all of the "faithless electors" chose to vote for the same person. They don't even have to vote for a declared candidate.

[myboynoah]

The only way I can see to salvage this election is to campaign to the electors who are not required by state law to vote for their pledged candidate. The electoral map would look like this if all of the "faithless electors" chose to vote for the same person. They don't even have to vote for a declared candidate.

Write in Mitt!!!

[PaloAltoCougar]

George Will knocks it clean out of the park. I love this essay so much.

(trigger warning: nazi reference)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.70a8ace29009

Agreed, that was very well done.

[Omaha 680]

Agreed, that was very well done.

Just sent it to my parents who have been on the fence. I haven't spoken to them since the release of the locker room tapes, so it wouldn't surprise me if they've closed the door on Trump.

[myboynoah]

George Will knocks it clean out of the park. I love this essay so much.

(trigger warning: nazi reference)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.70a8ace29009

Agreed, that was very well done.

First, he will give the nation the pleasure of seeing him join the one cohort, of the many cohorts he disdains, that he most despises — “losers.”

This will be the most satisfying. Which makes me wonder if The Dump has an escape plan if as we get closer to the election the numbers show he will get killed.

[falafel]

This will be the most satisfying. Which makes me wonder if The Dump has an escape plan if as we get closer to the election the numbers show he will get killed.

Which do you think Trump abhors more: being a loser, or being a quitter (for fear of losing)?

[myboynoah]

Which do you think Trump abhors more: being a loser, or being a quitter (for fear of losing)?

Well, he happily settles out of court so he doesn't have to lose, so he'll take the escape clause if he can generate a plausible (at least to him) narrative. Maybe he weaves a tale of Republicans abandoning him spelling certain defeat and justifying his stepping aside. Probably unlikely, but he hates to lose and avoids it when he can.

[myboynoah]

Well, he happily settles out of court so he doesn't have to lose, so he'll take the escape clause if he can generate a plausible (at least to him) narrative. Maybe he weaves a tale of Republicans abandoning him spelling certain defeat and justifying his stepping aside. Probably unlikely, but he hates to lose and avoids it when he can.

I'm also starting to wonder about how this whole presidential run will affect the Trump brand. Right now, it seems very damaged. I don't know who stays at his hotels and resorts, but it not likely the uneducated and Christian conservatives that are the diehard Dumpsters. How does that factor into Trump's decision-making going forward?

[BlueK]

George Will knocks it clean out of the park. I love this essay so much.

(trigger warning: nazi reference)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.70a8ace29009

I can only hope right now that a humiliating defeat sends the isolationist, big government (I want my handout and I'm pissed that those mexicans and black people are getting more than I am), xenophobic Trumpism faction out of the party. Let them and the David Dukes go form their own party if they want.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Another bizarre outcome of this election cycle: I kind of like Glenn Beck.

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http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...thical-choice/

[BlueK]

Another bizarre outcome of this election cycle: I kind of like Glenn Beck.

(trigger warning: nazi reference)

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...thical-choice/

That was on Breitbart? Wow. Someone is going to get death threats from this article.

[byu71]

Another bizarre outcome of this election cycle: I kind of like Glenn Beck.

(trigger warning: nazi reference)

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...thical-choice/

Glen Beck and his entertainment cronies like Hannity, Limbaugh, Laura whatever her name is are as responsible for Trump heading the republican party as anyone. They have blasted the republican party and the so called "establishment" almost as much as they have the democrats. McCain and Romney weren't conservative enough. They criticize Ryan constantly for not being tough enough. They gravitate to so called principled conservatives like Cruz and our very own "far, far right" Mike Lee.

I don't know how one group running around with all these prinicipled people can ever beat a group that are united on one thing, the ends justifies the means.

Hannity and Beck say they are not republicans, they are conservatives. I wish they would lead a movement to have a conservative party. Maybe then the republicans can build some kind of moderate party where I think most Americans actually are.