The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[Commando]

WTF?

I guess it makes more sense with the audio on and you hear Motorhead's 'Ace of Spades' blaring from that iphone.

[Applejack]

Great article.





Choke on it, SU.

SWISH!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...d-in-utah.html

[Jeff Lebowski]

SWISH!

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...d-in-utah.html

No, that would be "SUwish". Please learn to spot the difference.

[Applejack]

No, that would be "SUwish". Please learn to spot the difference.

What are we swishing about? I thought it was that SU said Trump would take Utah (I said the same thing as did most rational observers. Did we predict something else?

[Jeff Lebowski]

What are we swishing about? I thought it was that SU said Trump would take Utah (I said the same thing as did most rational observers. Did we predict something else?

I also expect Trump to take Utah. That has never been the debate, even though SU (and you?) prefers to see it through that black and white filter. Even the Atlantic article concedes that Hillary will likely win. But the author, and countless other pundits, see the Trump's relatively low support in one of the traditionally strongest republican states as particularly significant.

[Paperback Writer]

I also expect Trump to take Utah. That has never been the debate, even though SU (and you?) prefers to see it through that black and white filter. Even the Atlantic article concedes that Hillary will likely win. But the author, and countless other pundits, see the Trump's relatively low support in one of the traditionally strongest republican states as particularly significant.

The local Dallas news reported that Trump may be in trouble in Texas. Conversely, other political observers stated that if Hillary had a good chance in Texas, she would be campaigning like crazy here. But Trump's support seems to be weak in Texas. The major Dallas newspaper is not supporting Trump; first time they haven't backed the Republican nominee since LBJ.

[YOhio]

CNN just showed a clip of her on her campaign plane and she had to escape to the front of the plane because of another hacking attack. Must be suffering from an upper respiratory thing.

Living with a constant surround of sulfur would definitely take its toll on the lungs.

[Applejack]

I also expect Trump to take Utah. That has never been the debate, even though SU (and you?) prefers to see it through that black and white filter. Even the Atlantic article concedes that Hillary will likely win. But the author, and countless other pundits, see the Trump's relatively low support in one of the traditionally strongest republican states as particularly significant.

Agreed. It means that Trump is moronic. Does SU claim that Utah's Trump support will be at traditional levels? WHAT ARE WE ARGUING ABOUT?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Agreed. It means that Trump is moronic. Does SU claim that Utah's Trump support will be at traditional levels? WHAT ARE WE ARGUING ABOUT?

SU claims that Trump winning Utah would be an absolute indictment of the LDS church.

[frank ryan]

I worry that that fucktard Julian Assange is going to drop an October surprise. I hate that guy, he's a creep. I could see sexually assaulting those women. I know Clinton is flawed and corrupt and power hungry but I would love to see all of trumps internal communications so we could compare. I guarantee there has been coordination between his people and white supremacist groups.

[old_gregg]

I worry that that fucktard Julian Assange is going to drop an October surprise. I hate that guy, he's a creep. I could see sexually assaulting those women. I know Clinton is flawed and corrupt and power hungry but I would love to see all of trumps internal communications so we could compare. I guarantee there has been coordination between his people and white supremacist groups.

i've never understood why assange's endgame here is to get trump elected. and if he's so interested in the truth at all costs, why does he withhold stuff and release it at politically opportune times? he's as unprincipled as everybody else.

[creekster]

i've never understood why assange's endgame here is to get trump elected. and if he's so interested in the truth at all costs, why does he withhold stuff and release it at politically opportune times? he's as unprincipled as everybody else.

I have assumed this is his attempt to show just how unbiased he is. I also assume he is dragging this out becasue it keeps his name in the papers. I think that Frank goes a bit far in his post, but like Frank, I do not like Assange at all.

[Northwestcoug]

i've never understood why assange's endgame here is to get trump elected. and if he's so interested in the truth at all costs, why does he withhold stuff and release it at politically opportune times? he's as unprincipled as everybody else.

He is a saboteur, nothing else. He prime motivation is anarchy.

[myboynoah]

A guy called this morning saying he was from the Republican Party looking for donations because "we gotta elect Donald Trump." I told him no way, that I can't stand Trump. He started up again with something and I just told him Trump is an asshole and not to call me again. Then I hung up.

This has been and I am sure will continue to be a very sad, sad, election year. But I'm confident we will make America great again!

[BlueK]

If we are voting for VP's, Pence is far superior to Tim Kaine. I'm sure you would agree and think that is something we both can agree on in this thread.

We can both also agree Kaine would be better than Trump or Hillary.

Yeah, I'm sure you agree with Pence on his past anti-gay rhetoric. Or maybe not. Every major party candidate is far from ideal to me, but Hillary and Trump are the worst of my lifetime. The farthest back I can remember a presidential election was Carter vs. Ford. Yes, they're both worse than Carter to me.