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  • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
    are you dumb or
    You said that being a senator and a Sec. of State qualifies someone to POTUS. All I'm asking you to do is to explain why it qualifies anyone for that position. If you can't back up your words, don't say anything.
    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


    "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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    • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
      It's okay. Given that she never accomplished anything of note while in the Senate it's hard to remember that she ever served there. I'm still waiting for someone to point out an accomplishment of hers while in political office. The silence is deafening.

      Contrast Hillary with John Kerry. Kerry comes in and all of the sudden the US has an embassy in Cuba
      You wish we didn't work toward normalizing relations?

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      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
        You wish we didn't work toward normalizing relations?

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        • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
          You wish we didn't work toward normalizing relations?
          Is that a question or a response to an earlier question?
          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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          • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
            I don't think he's a fool at all. I don't see anyone disagreeing that he has very limited political executive experience.
            Outside of neurosurgery, I think that's a debatable point...

            Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
            What makes Carson any different than Dear Leader in this regard? Carson at least did something in his life before running for POTUS.
            OK, if we're judging people on interesting stories, yes, Carson edges out Obama. If we're judging them on political experience, there's no question that Obama was the better candidate. And yes, I do think he was pretty inexperienced, which makes Carson an even worse candidate.
            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
            - SeattleUte

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            • I saw my first Carson 2016 bumper sticker yesterday
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                I saw my first Carson 2016 bumper sticker yesterday
                Ha. I did too! At church?

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                • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                  Ha. I did too! At church?
                  No, on my way to church. Most members in my ward are part of the Cruz Crew.
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                    OK, if we're judging people on interesting stories, yes, Carson edges out Obama. If we're judging them on political experience, there's no question that Obama was the better candidate. And yes, I do think he was pretty inexperienced, which makes Carson an even worse candidate.
                    Obama's political experience was insignificant. He was no more qualified than Carson.

                    I don't want Carson near the White House, but he's no worse a candidate than Obama ever was. The only thing Obama did was graduate from law school, but he's demonstrated time and time again that he has no idea that the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

                    Besides, Carson's career as a neurosurgeon shows us that he is a divider and we need a uniter.
                    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                    "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                    • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                      Here's my problem with Carson (and likely with the majority of voters should he do the impossible and win the GOP nomination): other than an interesting personal story, is there anything else of substance that would help him be a good president? Or, put another way, is his personal story interesting/inspiring enough to cover for his complete lack of political experience? If so, then just barely.

                      Now if there are questions concerning the veracity of his autobiography (and it seems like it's just more than the West Point story), what do voters have to support him? That he's a decent person? Great. Because he really is a subpar politician who tends to whiff on a lot of softballs. And if he's embellishing his story, then he should get his Fox News Channel gig secure, because voters won't take to kindly to allegations of lying.
                      Unless your name is Hillary Clinton.

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                      • Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                        Obama's political experience was insignificant. He was no more qualified than Carson.
                        I don't want Carson near the White House, but he's no worse a candidate than Obama ever was. The only thing Obama did was graduate from law school, but he's demonstrated time and time again that he has no idea that the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

                        Besides, Carson's career as a neurosurgeon shows us that he is a divider and we need a uniter.
                        Experience as a state and US senator is completely insignificant???
                        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                        - SeattleUte

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                        • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                          Experience as a state and US senator is completely insignificant???
                          I would think that Carson's experience, whatever it is, is the equivalent or better than Obama's experience as a state legislator where he seemingly had no accomplishments. Carson at least has some professional accomplishments. Obama wrote a book about himself. Obama started running for President two years after he became a US Senator where he compiled a wholly unremarkable record. His experience wasn't his strong point. Carson doesn't even have that.

                          Carson's experience isn't his strong point. Obama has been a terrible president in no small part due to his lack of experience, so drawing upon Obama's experience as a line of delineation doesn't hold much water for me. I don't care that since we elected someone with no experience already, we should just go ahead and elect Ben Carson. If anything, that should be an argument against Carson.
                          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                          • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                            Experience as a state and US senator is completely insignificant???

                            He did nothing as a state and US Senator.
                            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                            "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                            • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                              I would think that Carson's experience, whatever it is, is the equivalent or better than Obama's experience
                              No his political experience is not superior. Carson can't even fluently address basic foreign policy questions. Being a brain fixer doesn't make you knowledgable or qualified to lead groups off people.

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                              • Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                                He did nothing as a state and US Senator.
                                if none of serving as president of the harvard law review, state senator, us senator, community organizer or secretary of state qualify a person to be potus, what in the world would?
                                Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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