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  • #31
    Originally posted by falafel View Post
    I'm crusading for a normal Wally. Sadly, its a losing battle.
    Huh. I would have pegged you as more of a crusader for the association for sass and sarcasm or something.

    falafel is on a crusade for A.S.S. Get it!?!?

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    • #32
      How could this be construed as abusive? Sexually? Emotionally? Physically? What is the argument?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by marsupial View Post
        I am definitely a lactivist though. It is best. But I try not to be pushy or judgmental to those moms who choose to bottle feed instead.

        My big issue is public breastfeeding. It is impossible for a mom to be successful at breastfeeding if she is forced to hide in the bathroom every time her baby is hungry. And if she has an older child to take care of along with the baby, then forget it. A mom isn't going to last long breastfeeding if she feels like she can never leave the house. People who think breastfeeding is obscene, lewd or inappropriate in public need to re-evaluate their position. It is natural, normal, nonsexual and absolutely necessary. If it makes you feel funny to see a mom breastfeeding, then look away.
        I agree with your view. There's also the breast pump option as you are probably aware. On some nights when it was my night to feed the baby, I would return from the nursery after bottle feeding our baby with breast milk only to find my wife pumping. When I would ask, couldn't you have just breastfed the baby instead of pumping (and thus allow me to sleep) I would get "the look" because it took twice as long to breastfeed than to pump. Then I would be asked to store the pumped milk in the fridge/freezer because I was already up.

        Anyway, my wife found that the pump gave her a little more freedom to feed a hungry baby in public and the pump helped her maintain a schedule. Sometimes a mother needs to feed a baby because the storage tank is full and the baby might not be hungry or sleeping. A pump is a good alternative in those situations.
        “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
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        • #34
          Originally posted by marsupial View Post
          Everyone has something. I think attachment parenting is great and applaud those for their passion.

          I get rubbed the wrong way when anyone tries to push their parenting philosophy on me, especially when they assert that their way is the only way. And both sides of the issue dish it out. Attachment parents get all sorts of flack for doing things their way. For example, when I was co-sleeping I'd get crap from other parents who thought sleeping with your baby was absolutely the worse thing you could do. They acted superior because their baby "never, not even once" slept in their bed. Then, I know there are some attachment folks that like to act like you're a monster if you don't immediately attend to your baby when it cries.

          I say kids are resilient. Give them love the best way you know how and they'll probably be just fine.
          Agree. Don't look into the windows of my house and I won't look into yours.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
            How could this be construed as abusive? Sexually? Emotionally? Physically? What is the argument?
            I think it's out of the norm, but from some of my more righteous friends whom the lord saw fit to send to foreign countries for missions, this is more common in other parts of the world. I knew an old guy who had a nanny when he was young and he said he had access until he was five or six.

            I wonder if it's sostrange to us because our mothers fought so hard for the "right" to bottle feed in order to continue careers that their mammories dried up well before we reached 3 yo.

            I have some friends I've known my whole life. It's a family of four girls, 2 years apart. Their moms a neonatal nurse and when they all started reproducing (they have a total of 22 between the four of them) they had a communal nursing policy. If a baby was crying, didn't matter whose, and the nearest sister had an open nipple, that baby was fed.

            At first I was appalled (it is crazy weird) but when you desexualize nursing, I guess, so long as everyone e consents, there's nothing morally wrong with it.
            Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

            "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
              At first I was appalled (it is crazy weird) but when you desexualize nursing, I guess, so long as everyone e consents, there's nothing morally wrong with it.
              Sorry, but I would definitely need a blue-ink handwritten signature for something like that.
              Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

              There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                Sorry, but I would definitely need a blue-ink handwritten signature for something like that.
                Yeah, it's nuts, but I think their moms profession had something to do with their open shirt policy. They'd been raised to think bottle feeding was harmful. They have healthy and happy kids, so there was no irreversible damage.
                Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                  Agree. Don't look into the windows of my house and I won't look into yours.
                  And I don't know... I kinda like spying on you and Gabers from behind the hedges.
                  What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
                  -Teenage Dirtbag

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by marsupial View Post
                    And I don't know... I kinda like spying on you and Gabers from behind the hedges.
                    We like that too. But come inside when you are ready.

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                    • #40
                      I think its pretty obvious that lady is not a nursing mother.
                      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by marsupial View Post
                        For the record, breastfeeding at 3 is fine by me. To each her own. I stopped at 2 with my kids.

                        I also co-slept and baby-wore, so I guess that means I was practicing "attachment parenting," though I never specifically subscribed to that philosophy. I just found it easier to have my babies in bed when they still nursed at night than to wake up and haul my butt across the house to feed them. The sling was a tool for multi-tasking.
                        Pretty much my wife's approach to nursing.

                        Originally posted by marsupial View Post
                        I am definitely a lactivist though. It is best. But I try not to be pushy or judgmental to those moms who choose to bottle feed instead.

                        My big issue is public breastfeeding. It is impossible for a mom to be successful at breastfeeding if she is forced to hide in the bathroom every time her baby is hungry. And if she has an older child to take care of along with the baby, then forget it. A mom isn't going to last long breastfeeding if she feels like she can never leave the house. People who think breastfeeding is obscene, lewd or inappropriate in public need to re-evaluate their position. It is natural, normal, nonsexual and absolutely necessary. If it makes you feel funny to see a mom breastfeeding, then look away.
                        My wife made her own hooter-hider for this very reason. She recently combined her carrier (mei tei) and her hooter-hider at my sons tball game.
                        I'm your huckleberry.


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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by FN Phat View Post
                          Pretty much my wife's approach to nursing.



                          My wife made her own hooter-hider for this very reason. She recently combined her carrier (mei tei) and her hooter-hider at my sons tball game.
                          Nothing screams "BREASTFEEDING!" more to me than a gigantic nursing cover. I breastfeed in public fairly frequently and it's not difficult to be discrete without totally covering up. Whether to cover up or not should be a matter of personal comfort for moms. I don't care a jot how or where women care to breastfeed, but I do find the hooter hiders impractical for my own purposes since my kiddo writhes and kicks and bats at anything that covers his face and has since he was 2 days old.

                          As to the picture itself, it's purposely photographed to be provocative. The photographer indicated as much in an interview. The angling and the big kid on a chair next to his svelte mom exaggerates his size even further.

                          It's not child abuse and it's not incest. Move along, people.
                          Last edited by Mrs. Funk; 05-11-2012, 11:22 PM.
                          "You know, I was looking at your shirt and your scarf and I was thinking that if you had leaned over, I could have seen everything." ~Trial Ad Judge

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                          • #43
                            I agree, however there's no discrete way for me to do it otherwise. I have huge boobs when nursing and I don't need to be gawked at by someone who may get off on seeing some areola. I don't understand how this is child abuse or porn...she's simply breastfeeding.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Chachi View Post
                              I agree, however there's no discrete way for me to do it otherwise. I have huge boobs when nursing and I don't need to be gawked at by someone who may get off on seeing some areola. I don't understand how this is child abuse or porn...she's simply breastfeeding.
                              Hey, that's cool. Do what works for you!

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                              "You know, I was looking at your shirt and your scarf and I was thinking that if you had leaned over, I could have seen everything." ~Trial Ad Judge

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                              • #45
                                When he is old enough to start shaving those bristles are not going to feel nice on her nipples.

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