The Police Brutality Thread

[Bo Diddley]

It does look that way. There's after footage of the cop in tears, repeatedly asking, "Why did he do that?" I can't seem to find it again; if someone comes across, please link it here. I will too if I see it again.

Yeah I can't imagine.

[Maximus]

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[smokymountainrain]

[BigFatMeanie]

So the Memphis PD beating has been getting a lot of attention but nobody seems to have been playing the race card much, and the post-Floyd style rioting hasn't happened. I think that is mainly because the 5 officers that were fired and charged with 2nd-degree murder are all black, as was the victim, as well as the chief of police.

Up until now.

It turns out that at least one of the first officers to apprehend Tyree was white. He tased Tyree at the first scene but was not present at the second scene where the beating took place:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/us/ty...day/index.html

The white officer, and at least one other officer, were suspended earlier but that wasn't known publicly. Now that "noted civil-rights attorney" Crump knows a white person was involved he's begun revving up the racial outrage engine. I wonder if we'll get post-Floyd style rioting soon?

The white junior EMT and the black senior EMT on scene after the beating have both been fired, along with a fire department lieutenant who is black and female and who never got out of the fire truck. Even people that were never at either scene, but handled some of the paperwork afterwards, are under investigation.

[old_gregg]

So the Memphis PD beating has been getting a lot of attention but nobody seems to have been playing the race card much, and the post-Floyd style rioting hasn't happened. I think that is mainly because the 5 officers that were fired and charged with 2nd-degree murder are all black, as was the victim, as well as the chief of police.

Up until now.

It turns out that at least one of the first officers to apprehend Tyree was white. He tased Tyree at the first scene but was not present at the second scene where the beating took place:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/us/ty...day/index.html

The white officer, and at least one other officer, were suspended earlier but that wasn't known publicly. Now that "noted civil-rights attorney" Crump knows a white person was involved he's begun revving up the racial outrage engine. I wonder if we'll get post-Floyd style rioting soon?

The white junior EMT and the black senior EMT on scene after the beating have both been fired, along with a fire department lieutenant who is black and female and who never got out of the fire truck. Even people that were never at either scene, but handled some of the paperwork afterwards, are under investigation.

oh so that’s how white people are the victims here. shut up with your preemptive outrage.

[Bo Diddley]

We haven't really discussed the Tyre Nichols killing unless I missed it. I won't watch the video, but I've heard enough commentary to get the gist of it. It's just heart breaking. I've said it before, there's a culture problem within our police, and that's going to be difficult to change.

I've also said in the past that you get what you pay for. Could we increase the standards of police officers if we increase the pay? Can we change the scope of what police do? Would it be better to limit how much time we'll allow police officers in an active field role?

The answers aren't going to be easy to come up with, but the status quo is dysfunctional.

[MartyFunkhouser]

So the Memphis PD beating has been getting a lot of attention but nobody seems to have been playing the race card much, and the post-Floyd style rioting hasn't happened. I think that is mainly because the 5 officers that were fired and charged with 2nd-degree murder are all black, as was the victim, as well as the chief of police.

Up until now.

It turns out that at least one of the first officers to apprehend Tyree was white. He tased Tyree at the first scene but was not present at the second scene where the beating took place:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/us/ty...day/index.html

The white officer, and at least one other officer, were suspended earlier but that wasn't known publicly. Now that "noted civil-rights attorney" Crump knows a white person was involved he's begun revving up the racial outrage engine. I wonder if we'll get post-Floyd style rioting soon?

The white junior EMT and the black senior EMT on scene after the beating have both been fired, along with a fire department lieutenant who is black and female and who never got out of the fire truck. Even people that were never at either scene, but handled some of the paperwork afterwards, are under investigation.

You know why there wasn't rioting, because of the quick, decisive, and well thought out actions of the Memphis department. It has also helped that Tyre Nichols family has been in front of this as well, encouraging peaceful protest.

CJ Davis, the Memphis Chief of Police, issued a phenomenal statement early in the process. The fact that the officers actions were strongly condemned, that there was a quick investigation that result in dismissal and charges, and the police themselves encouraged protests.

[Non Sequitur]

You know why there wasn't rioting, because of the quick, decisive, and well thought out actions of the Memphis department. It has also helped that Tyre Nichols family has been in front of this as well, encouraging peaceful protest.

CJ Davis, the Memphis Chief of Police, issued a phenomenal statement early in the process. The fact that the officers actions were strongly condemned, that there was a quick investigation that result in dismissal and charges, and the police themselves encouraged protests.

Don't fool yourself. If those officers had been white, downtown Memphis would be smoldering as we speak.

[smokymountainrain]

Don't fool yourself. If those officers had been white, downtown Memphis would be smoldering as we speak.

no question about it.

[BlueK]

no question about it.

Likely so. There would also be a considerable amount of apologetics around the actions of the police in conservative (MAGA) media, along with concerted efforts at digging up dirt on the victim. The fact there is none of that going on now says a lot.

[smokymountainrain]

Likely so. There would also be a considerable amount of apologetics around the actions of the police in conservative (MAGA) media, along with concerted efforts at digging up dirt on the victim. The fact there is none of that going on now says a lot.

also true.

[Maximus]

cops leave dude for dead in freezer, cop who exposes it fired
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...il-f-rcna71075

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[BigFatMeanie]

Some of you might not have gotten All American's reference to the yellow fringe on the flag in a Trump photo, but paranoia about the yellow/gold fringe is a thing in the sovereign citizen movement. Those sovereign citizen folks are nutso.

On Wednesday the cops shot and killed a 25 year old man in Farmington after a traffic stop. The original article makes it seem like his family is just a normal everyday family although it did say he was pulled over for driving a vehicle without a license plate:

https://www.ksl.com/article/50591878...newalling-them

A "confrontation" ensued, police said, but they have not provided additional details, including whether the man had a weapon or what specifically prompted officers to fire their weapons. The police department has said it will release additional details after the investigation is complete.

Now more of the story is starting to come out. It turns out this family was into the sovereign citizen movement, the mother had filed a federal lawsuit against Farmington cops over a traffic stop last year, and the son, and possibly the vehicle, was definitely known to the cops:

https://www.ksl.com/article/50592285...p-5-months-ago

While the article never mentions the "sovereign citizen" movement, the quotes and descriptions from the lawsuit are littered with sovereign citizen language:

Nearly a year ago, a man who was shot and killed by Farmington police on Wednesday accompanied his mother to the Farmington police station to act as a witness while she argued against a traffic citation.

Chase Allan's mother, Diane Killian Allan, had been stopped several hours earlier for failure to register her vehicle. She had argued the officer didn't have probable cause to pull her over and that she has the right to travel. The officer cited her anyway for driving without registration and driving without a license.

The "right to travel" is mumbo jumbo that sovereign citizens spout all the time. They think they can simply show a passport to avoid any arrest or detention because of the blurb in the front of it where Secretary of State directs the citizen be allowed to "pass without delay or hindrance". Many sovereign citizens refuse to pay taxes yet think it's their inalienable right to drive on public roads that were built and maintained by the very taxes they refuse to pay.

When Diane Allan came to the station later with her son, then-Lt. Eric Johnsen, who is currently Farmington's police chief, came into the lobby where the woman said she hand-delivered what she called a "rescissioned citation." She claims Johnsen crumpled it into a ball and said her car would be impounded if she didn't register it.

"That's a threat," Chase Allan said, according to a lawsuit Diane Allan filed in September in federal court.

More sovereign citizen mumbo jumbo. They think they can simply write specific words and phrases on bills or tickets and then they don't have pay them.

Johnsen allegedly replied, "No, it's a promise, it's a promise."

"Defendant Johnsen was informed that such comments are a declaration of war against plaintiff," her lawsuit states.
...

Allan is seeking unspecified damages for "mental anguish, emotional distress, loss of enjoyment of life, time lost to address this matter and economic damages." She's also seeking an injunction prohibiting police from kidnapping her, taking her property or participating in her court proceedings.

An injunction against the cops from participating in her court proceedings (the very cops that she's suing in federal court)? The lawsuit, as described and quoted from in the article, is complete gibberish. There is a bunch more info about it in the article, but the family is definitely loony tunes.

I have no idea whether the Farmington cops had justification to shoot the dude, but I can definitely believe that he was uncooperative, as the cops stated, if he was part of the sovereign citizen movement. The body cam footage will be interesting when it is released, and it will be interesting to see how the shooting is investigated because the mother had also named the Davis County Attorney's Office and Davis County Justice Court in her federal lawsuit.

[All-American]

Some of you might not have gotten All American's reference to the yellow fringe on the flag in a Trump photo, but paranoia about the yellow/gold fringe is a thing in the sovereign citizen movement. Those sovereign citizen folks are nutso.

On Wednesday the cops shot and killed a 25 year old man in Farmington after a traffic stop. The original article makes it seem like his family is just a normal everyday family although it did say he was pulled over for driving a vehicle without a license plate:

https://www.ksl.com/article/50591878...newalling-them



Now more of the story is starting to come out. It turns out this family was into the sovereign citizen movement, the mother had filed a federal lawsuit against Farmington cops over a traffic stop last year, and the son, and possibly the vehicle, was definitely known to the cops:

https://www.ksl.com/article/50592285...p-5-months-ago

While the article never mentions the "sovereign citizen" movement, the quotes and descriptions from the lawsuit are littered with sovereign citizen language:


The "right to travel" is mumbo jumbo that sovereign citizens spout all the time. They think they can simply show a passport to avoid any arrest or detention because of the blurb in the front of it where Secretary of State directs the citizen be allowed to "pass without delay or hindrance". Many sovereign citizens refuse to pay taxes yet think it's their inalienable right to drive on public roads that were built and maintained by the very taxes they refuse to pay.



More sovereign citizen mumbo jumbo. They think they can simply write specific words and phrases on bills or tickets and then they don't have pay them.



An injunction against the cops from participating in her court proceedings (the very cops that she's suing in federal court)? The lawsuit, as described and quoted from in the article, is complete gibberish. There is a bunch more info about it in the article, but the family is definitely loony tunes.

I have no idea whether the Farmington cops had justification to shoot the dude, but I can definitely believe that he was uncooperative, as the cops stated, if he was part of the sovereign citizen movement. The body cam footage will be interesting when it is released, and it will be interesting to see how the shooting is investigated because the mother had also named the Davis County Attorney's Office and Davis County Justice Court in her federal lawsuit.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Wait a minute. This sovereign citizen BS declares you can just make up your own rules about registration, driver licences, etc, but then she files a lawsuit and wants to use the legal system to get her way? Lol. Come on, you can't have it both ways.