The Police Brutality Thread

[falafel]

IIRC, he did all his own legal filings, but whenever a court appearance was required, he would hire out some attorney piece-meal to come in and argue in court. 9 months sounds like a long time, but that is a blink of an eye in the legal world (basically that was how long it took for me to get a hearing in federal court). He was able to keep it going for 10+ years, because this was basically his part-time job. He probably would have been better off getting a $15/hr side job and using that to pay his mortgage.

I think his grift was made possible for so long because the owners of these securities sell them and then the new owners hire different lawyers, etc. So the bank entering into a repayment agreement with this guy is doing it for the first time for them, and the bank's lawyer is eager just to get some resolution and get the file off his/her plate. I was the first guy on the case who didn't just address the issue immediately at hand, but decided that connecting all 10 years of dots for the court would help not just win the instant matter, but convince the court to take some action to stop it from happening again. Most of these sovereign citizen types can get away with this nonsense because, even though they lack legal standing on pretty much any of their positions, they keep running into people who are happy to punt the issue to the next person. At the hearing on our motion, the attorney asked me about a loan modification deal, etc. and said his client would be interested. I took that back to my client and said 'here's what they want, but here's how it will play out, so we should just press forward and put this thing to bed." It would have been very easy for me to say "Let's offer the guy a loan modification" and they would have for sure done it.

The Nordeens

[Donuthole]

The Nordeens

Yeah, I punted on that one. Because, well, fraud vitiates.

[Northwestcoug]

This is quite the thread on the DOJ investigation of the Minneapolis police deparment:

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Glad my daughter who just moved there has a complexion that will help keep her away from this abuse.

[Pelado]

This is quite the thread on the DOJ investigation of the Minneapolis police deparment:

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Glad my daughter who just moved there has a complexion that will help keep her away from this abuse.

Wow. Just wow.

[Non Sequitur]

Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/24/us/derek-chauvin-stabbed-prison-george-floyd/index.html

That's a shame.

[frank ryan]

Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/24/us/derek-chauvin-stabbed-prison-george-floyd/index.html

That's a shame.

“I am sad to hear that Derek Chauvin was the target of violence,” Ellison said, according to the statement provided to CNN. “He was duly convicted of his crimes and, like any incarcerated individual, he should be able to serve his sentence without fear of retaliation or violence.”


Unfortunately there is zero appetite to address this problem.

[Northwestcoug]

“I am sad to hear that Derek Chauvin was the target of violence,” Ellison said, according to the statement provided to CNN. “He was duly convicted of his crimes and, like any incarcerated individual, he should be able to serve his sentence without fear of retaliation or violence.”


Unfortunately there is zero appetite to address this problem.

Yes. It’s unfortunate that this incident won’t likely move the needle of public support for incarceration reform. But he deserves to be safe from violence as much as any more sympathetic person in jail.

[Jeff Lebowski]

“I am sad to hear that Derek Chauvin was the target of violence,” Ellison said, according to the statement provided to CNN. “He was duly convicted of his crimes and, like any incarcerated individual, he should be able to serve his sentence without fear of retaliation or violence.”


Unfortunately there is zero appetite to address this problem.

Always turns my stomach when I see people cheering on violence in prison.

[Non Sequitur]

“I am sad to hear that Derek Chauvin was the target of violence,” Ellison said, according to the statement provided to CNN. “He was duly convicted of his crimes and, like any incarcerated individual, he should be able to serve his sentence without fear of retaliation or violence.”


Unfortunately there is zero appetite to address this problem.

How do you want to address the problem? You have a facility that is warehousing thousands of people who are there because they chose a life of violence. What are you possibly going to do to prevent violence from happening in prison? Maybe I'm a monster, but I don't feel a tinge of sadness when violent criminals reap the consequences of a violent life. Were you sad when Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in prison? I know I wasn't.

[Jeff Lebowski]

How do you want to address the problem? You have a facility that is warehousing thousands of people who are there because they chose a life of violence. What are you possibly going to do to prevent violence from happening in prison? Maybe I'm a monster, but I don't feel a tinge of sadness when violent criminals reap the consequences of a violent life. Were you sad when Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in prison? I know I wasn't.

If you have to use Jeffrey Dahmer to make your point, you aren't arguing from a position of moral strength.

[Non Sequitur]

If you have to use Jeffrey Dahmer to make your point, you aren't arguing from a position of moral strength.

I'm not trying to argue from a position of moral strength. I'm just saying I don't care. I can't help it if I don't care whether Derek Chauvin lives or dies in prison. It's the way God wired me. Blame it on Him.

[Pelado]

I'm not trying to argue from a position of moral strength. I'm just saying I don't care. I can't help it if I don't care whether Derek Chauvin lives or dies in prison. It's the way God wired me. Blame it on Him.

I am probably a bad person, but my first thought upon reading about the attack was something along the lines of "Not that surprising...he probably deserved it."

In church today, the speaker said that we often think of what people deserve. What we should be thinking instead is what people need.

[Non Sequitur]

I am probably a bad person, but my first thought upon reading about the attack was something along the lines of "Not that surprising...he probably deserved it."

In church today, the speaker said that we often think of what people deserve. What we should be thinking instead is what people need.

Wow. That's exactly what I used to tell my first wife when it came to our differences on how to parent our difficult teenage daughter. I've got to give up two points to your church speaker.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm not trying to argue from a position of moral strength. I'm just saying I don't care. I can't help it if I don't care whether Derek Chauvin lives or dies in prison. It's the way God wired me. Blame it on Him.

Yeesh, what a copout. But points for honesty I guess.

[Non Sequitur]

Yeesh, what a copout. But points for honesty I guess.

I don't know if you really care about Derek Chauvin or just pretend to care. I know the things I'm supposed to care about and the things that are supposed to trigger moral outrage, and I generally play along and pretend to care. In the future I'll try harder to stick to the script.