The Police Brutality Thread

[Jeff Lebowski]

But he didn't commit a terrorist act. He merely sat during the national anthem. That's the method at issue, and as methods go it's pretty benign.

Of course not. That isn't the point. But the fact that he "got us talking" is a very poor way to gauge the wisdom or effectiveness of his approach.

[creekster]

But he didn't commit a terrorist act. He merely sat during the national anthem. That's the method at issue, and as methods go it's pretty benign.

benign? Compared to a terrorist act, I suppose so. But it is a very bad mechanism to seek to further dialogue on a race issue of this sort, IMO.

[Non Sequitur]

So, Kaep wears a Malcolm X hat and the shirt features Fidel Castro and Malcolm X with a caption of "Like Minds Think Alike" and you're thinking that Kaepernick is weaving some savvy masterpiece of commentary here?

Yeah I'll call you crazy, and dumb.

He's not trying to weave a savvy masterpiece of commentary, nor should he. If he had written an op-ed piece for the Times, your complaint might be valid. He's a clumsy MacGyver using the only tools he has at hand.

[creekster]

He's not trying to weave a savvy masterpiece of commentary, nor should he. If had written an op-ed piece for the Times, your complaint might be valid. He's a clumsy MacGyver using the only tools he has at hand.

I think that's closer to the truth except that this isn't the only tool he had available.

[taekwondave]

And what on earth makes you think I am taking it personally?

Did you just ask that?

[taekwondave]

Have you read the thread "bro?" Becasue if you had you would understand the context for his posts.

Now you're defending him. Yeah I'd say you took the Kaep thing pretty personally. Very weird. Worth a look in the mirror? Maybe.

[taekwondave]

Of course not. That isn't the point. But the fact that he "got us talking" is a very poor way to gauge the wisdom or effectiveness of his approach.

Is it though? If it wasn't at least slightly offensive nobody would have cared enough to talk about it. I mean, it got this board talking about possible solutions to the problem, regardless of whether he presented the problem eloquently or thoroughly enough. Maybe there's one more person on CS today who thinks ending the war on drugs is a good idea, because Kap got us talking about it. It seems like it was wildly effective whether or not it was his actual wisdom that led to this.

When I go on ESPN right now and click on "49ers" there are like 50 stories on this, in like 3 days. It's got people talking about it and I think it's got people thinking about it. The problem would be, in my opinion, to let the discussion about this die. If we let it die then we prolong the time it takes to solve the problem. It all starts with discussion. There's mostly crap at first but then good ideas get circulated, cooler heads prevail, and and sometimes that leads to good policy changes.

I'm very, very happy Kap did this, and I hope more do likewise.

[creekster]

Did you just ask that?

Yes, I did. Just as clearly as you failed to answer it.

[creekster]

Now you're defending him. Yeah I'd say you took the Kaep thing pretty personally. Very weird. Worth a look in the mirror? Maybe.

No, I merely pointed out that your suggestion that his posts were random stats having no relationship to the thread was inaccurate and revealed that you had not bothered to read the thread in its entirety. I have no idea if the stats he cited are correct or not. But, unlike you, I read the thread and was able therefore to place his posts in context.

[Jeff Lebowski]

He's not trying to weave a savvy masterpiece of commentary, nor should he. If had written an op-ed piece for the Times, your complaint might be valid. He's a clumsy MacGyver using the only tools he has at hand.

And doing far more damage than good along the way.

[Flystripper]

This story is a big ho hum, but I don't really see the damage he is doing. So he sits down, big deal. As long as his employer is ok with it, he has the right. I don't understand why this is getting so much play. People burn the flag in protest all the time and its a blip on the local news if anything. JWs refrain from saying the pledge of allegiance, and other kids just look at them weird. This is a much to do about nothing.

[falafel]

This story is a big ho hum, but I don't really see the damage he is doing. So he sits down, bit deal. As long as his employer is ok with it, he has the right. I don't understand why this is getting so much play. People burn the flag in protest all the time and its a blip on the local news if anything. JWs refrain from saying the pledge of allegiance, and other kids just look at them weird. This is a much to do about nothing.

Agree.

[Pelado]

This is why abstinence education is so important.

This story is a big ho hum, but I don't really see the damage he is doing. So he sits down, big deal. As long as his employer is ok with it, he has the right. I don't understand why this is getting so much play. People burn the flag in protest all the time and its a blip on the local news if anything. JWs refrain from saying the pledge of allegiance, and other kids just look at them weird. This is a much to do about nothing.

Agree.

I'm not worried about it. Is he slated to start?

[CardiacCoug]

This is a brilliant move by Kaepernick right?

Gonna be a helluva lot harder for Chip Kelly to cut him now than it was last week.

I just wish Kaepernick would be a little more specific in his stated reasons -- the mass incarceration of AA men in this country is a huge moral failing and is definitely worthy of protest.

[old_gregg]

This is a brilliant move by Kaepernick right?

Gonna be a helluva lot harder for Chip Kelly to cut him now than it was last week.

I just wish Kaepernick would be a little more specific in his stated reasons -- the mass incarceration of AA men in this country is a huge moral failing and is definitely worthy of protest.

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