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  • wuapinmon
    Soul Plumber
    • Dec 2008
    • 30711

    #811
    Originally posted by Shaka View Post
    Looks cherry picked. What happened before? Why was a cop summoned? Why did the student not comply?
    She was being disruptive, was asked to leave, and wouldn't. There is no way this level of force is justified.
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • cougjunkie
      *Banned*
      • Nov 2008
      • 23223

      #812
      A 15 second clip is not enough to pass judgement. He is trying to remove her from her desk which as I am sure you know, are difficult to get out of.
      *Banned*

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      • il Padrino Ute
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 19161

        #813
        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
        She was being disruptive, was asked to leave, and wouldn't. There is no way this level of force is justified.
        Do you know the entire story behind this to make such a definitive statement?
        "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


        "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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        • wuapinmon
          Soul Plumber
          • Dec 2008
          • 30711

          #814


          And, no child should be literally tossed across a room for being disruptive. There is no reason why a cop should body slam her backwards and then heave her so far he has to have to step a ways to get on top of her. He should ask the class to go to the gym and then they talk to her and tell her to get out of the desk. Then, they call her parents. Then, she gets expelled and alternative school for being a little shit. This, on a child, is barbaric.

          A second viewpoint: http://www.wistv.com/clip/11950851/r...valley-student
          Last edited by wuapinmon; 10-26-2015, 08:57 PM.
          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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          • old_gregg
            scaly man fish
            • Nov 2009
            • 16915

            #815
            Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
            http://www.wistv.com/story/30353999/...source-officer

            And, no child should be literally tossed across a room for being disruptive. There is no reason why a cop should body slam her backwards and then heave her so far he has to have to step a ways to get on top of her. He should ask the class to go to the gym and then they talk to her and tell her to get out of the desk. Then, they call her parents. Then, she gets expelled and alternative school for being a little shit. This, on a child, is barbaric.

            A second viewpoint: http://www.wistv.com/clip/11950851/r...valley-student
            you're right, they should have just said please and this situation would have been avoided
            Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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            • wuapinmon
              Soul Plumber
              • Dec 2008
              • 30711

              #816
              Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
              you're right, they should have just said please and this situation would have been avoided
              Clearly the alternative is to throw a child across a room when she misbehaves at school.
              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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              • old_gregg
                scaly man fish
                • Nov 2009
                • 16915

                #817
                Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                Clearly the alternative is to throw a child across a room when she misbehaves at school.
                would any use of force have been justified in this circumstance?
                Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                • Shaka
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 10459

                  #818
                  Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                  Clearly the alternative is to throw a child across a room when she misbehaves at school.
                  Why not? That's what my dad did.

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                  • wuapinmon
                    Soul Plumber
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 30711

                    #819
                    Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                    would any use of force have been justified in this circumstance?
                    On a child, no. Someone could've gotten that child to leave that room; that our goto is violence, towards a child, is wrong.
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • Color Me Badd Fan
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 12523

                      #820
                      I wonder if/when the Zangief Street Fighter parody edit will come out.
                      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                      • Color Me Badd Fan
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 12523

                        #821
                        Wuap chose the cherry-picked video. There's a longer video showing the officer calmly asking her, more than once, to come with him. She refused. He then comes over to get her out of the desk and she immediately starts flailing around. Likely, it was the momentum from her total overreaction which caused her to fall backward.

                        It's hard to make out what caused the officer to throw her a few feet. She was probably still flailing around so the officer had to use force to separate her from the desk to a space where he could cuff her.
                        Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                        • Shaka
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 10459

                          #822
                          My view is if the kid will not comply with the order then the cop ought to be able to remove them.

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                          • old_gregg
                            scaly man fish
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 16915

                            #823
                            Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                            On a child, no. Someone could've gotten that child to leave that room; that our goto is violence, towards a child, is wrong.
                            what is a child?
                            Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                            • Pelado
                              Bald not naked
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21208

                              #824
                              Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                              what is a child?
                              A young person.
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                              • Green Monstah
                                Royal Rooter
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 14005

                                #825
                                The cop in this video is a friend of mine and is a good dude. Had the kid not started cursing loudly, he probably would have been fine. Had the kid not started kicking my buddy when he was being removed from the Segway, he probably would have gotten an earful and nothing more. I think we can all be happy that the kid's brother/constitutional lawyer is present.

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